Everyone that entered the lottery should have a second chance - it wasn't fairly done

[Jojoya]

seriously? did you even read what I wrote? and by the amount of replies... did anyone?
I said add more wards and open up a chunk of the FC only wards for anyone to roll on... I even said they're "NOT" going to take away already won homes

If you give people a second chance without the bug they lose the excuse that SE is screwing with them... We need a ton more housing anyways. Why is the thought of that met with such friction? I don't understand it at all

I didn't even try... I like my house but I have a lot of FC mates that are pissed off

Adding more wards depends on SE's ability to get more server hardware and renegotiate contracts to get more physical space in the locations hosting the data center hardware. That's not a simple and straightforward task, especially when said arrangements have to be made for 5 different locations handled by 5 different contracts.

They've already told us that they will change ward designations as needed in the future. I doubt they're going to do it until at least 3-4 lottery periods have passes to make reasonably certain that all FCs currently looking have gotten their house. Their need to fix the lottery bug is going to delay just how soon that can happen.

As for the game in CN/KR, it's published/operated by separate companies that have been given a license by SE to do so. How they run and monetize the game in those countries does not mirror how SE runs it in JP/NA/EU/OCE. Trying to use it as a comparison point does not work.

[TaleraRistain]

If you give people a second chance without the bug they lose the excuse that SE is screwing with them... We need a ton more housing anyways. Why is the thought of that met with such friction? I don't understand it at all

There is absolutely no legitimacy to the idea that SE is screwing with anyone in this besides someone's own conspiracy theory ideas. SE has been transparent about what happened. If someone chooses not to believe that, that's on them.

[KurohNeko]

Think about this for a second. If you entered an IRL lottery but someone added additional numbers that were not actual entrants wouldn't that be wrong and immoral? For example if ten people enter the lottery but there are an additional two "fake tickets" or even one fake ticket we would all agree that isn't fair and shifts the odds against us.

Now moving on, imagine if the lottery had errors that didn't properly choose any winner whatsoever (There were no participants in the lottery). We would find that to be suspicious and unfair would we not?

Imagine if someone were doing a giveaway and the entry was zero or strange messages were coming up like the ones we're seeing. It wouldn't be deemed fair.

My point is, the lottery was not fairly ran by any means. We do not know how the system picks a winner but what we do know it added an additional entry of "Zero" to every single house lottery. We know that the system is not operating properly. We know strange messages sometimes come up and deprive anyone of winning.

A casino wouldn't allow a slot machine to remain on the floor in this case or perhaps a dealer adding cards to a game of blackjack - or any other game.

This has to be done fairly and with full transparency. I believe that the lottery should be redone entirely for every house in every Empyreum ward AFTER it is properly fixed and ready.

This class is why you read the updates like a good vet and not a sprout. They explained the lotto itself worked flawlessly it was communicating results to the server. No one actually rolled a zero, the server that communicates results said you did and wouldn't give permissions. However you actually rolled a number. And it wasn't until they patched it that the server properly relayed that number. Furthermore it was only some that did some that didn't. Mine didn't I even screenshotted it. I rolled a 3 and my friend also rolled a 3 on another home. As we were the third applicants. Worked fine, got permissions finalized purchase. Some people got a 0 despite being the sole applicant. Those people got their homes as no competition. For those with competition but rolled a zero I believe they all re-enter but it's possible that the actual high roller got the house.

If it were an issue of the actual randomizer glitching and across the board then I could see doing a mass re-roll but that would simply be on the theoretical principle... Add in those like myself who didn't have any problems and won and have already invested a ton of gil into it. Doing a re-roll now would be a PR suicide and require a godly amount of compensation. They aren't going to do that. They have already made it clear they aren't as they don't want that PR scandal. Even if it worked flawlessly without the 0 display glitch you'd still have people finding a way to bitch about fairness and questioning the system.

[Packetdancer]

For those with competition but rolled a zero I believe they all re-enter but it's possible that the actual high roller got the house.

Based on the Lodestone posts, there is an actual winner who was picked in the lottery for every plot, the actual high-roller does still get the house, it's literally just that the placards never got the phonecall/received the mail/whatever analogy you want here, so had no data to display. The mailbox, as it were, was empty.

Also based on the Lodestone posts, the factor complicating any fix is that some people who did win withdrew the gil for their bid, and the system has zero existing provision on how to collect gil for the housing plot when it's no longer "in the placard", for lack of a better term. And it sounds like SQEX -- quite rightly -- does not want to invalidate the wins for people who withdrew their gil thinking they hadn't won due to an issue on SQEX's side of things... which means they have to figure out a good way to collect the gil from those winners in a sane, automated, stable fashion. (E.g., something that does not make the situation worse.)