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  1. #1411
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Call me old-fashioned but oh man do I miss the old days when you had more buttons to press. Whenever I run a dungeon I don't feel like there's enough to do with my job. Yoshi P's statement regarding OP's point doesn't alleviate that issue.

    Telling someone to do content perhaps 1% in this game do at best, isn't a solution long-term. I have alot of faith in this playerbase, I think the devs can experiment a bit more with jobs. They did it in PVP, etc.

    Healers definitely need more than 1-2 buttons to press. I can only imagine of frustrating playing the game is. He should try playing a healer for a while to see what it's like.
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  2. #1412
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    I've considered making a thread about how the push towards solo content is bad for the healer role and shows that the role needs a redesign even though I'm perfectly fine with having trusts for players who don't want to engage with multiplayer content. Maybe it's my tired brain thinking that this is a good point of criticism, but I really can't see how a new player is supposed to find healing with bots for the entirety of the game to be fun.

    I know that it's only 2.0 and ShB-EW dungeons/1 EW Trial you can do with trusts at the moment, but something I see people who defend current healers say is "just play with sprouts/new players, you'll have to heal a lot" but how are new players who want to heal but also play with the bots supposed to have fun? Especially as players get more healing actions that make healing easier to enable more DPSing.

    I haven't tried any of the ARR trusts yet but if they're anything like the ShB/EW ones, the NPCs don't mess up often, so where's the fun a new player who wants to play healer is supposed to be having? Scholar gains new 0 DPS abilities after level 45 when it gets Energy Drain, I cannot imagine telling someone who is new to this game, working through 2.0 that this is all they get to do, and they have hundreds of hours of content to go through from 2.1 to 6.1 where they do NOTHING but press 1-2 buttons for a majority of their playtime with nothing added for them to do. The same two buttons they were pressing when they fight Garuda are the same two they'll be pressing when they're fighting the final boss of EW, with no variation. They'd probably think it was a really bad game!
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  3. #1413
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    Archie Heios
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    Sagittarius
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    Sage Lv 90
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
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  4. #1414
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
    Good video.
    (2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  5. #1415
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
    The chairman is the Hero FFXIV needs, but does not deserve.
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  6. #1416
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
    This man needs a medal.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #1417
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
    Gotta be the nitpicker I usually am. Enjoyed it up until I groaned. "Maybe WHM could keep the 1 button rotation for variety"?

    God. Please. No. Why. Don't go an entire video harping on how horrible and boring and migraine-inducing and wretched and embarrassing the 1 button unchanged since level 4 "rotation" is....and then conclude "but nah it's totally okay if WHM stays designed that way".

    If it's embarrassing unacceptable design, it's embarrassing unacceptable design. Even on a job you don't play.
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  8. #1418
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    Angelioux Hymnwesfv
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    I'll just drop this here and take my leave

    https://youtu.be/sbWubxOTUWU
    lol sheesh! Yup the ever growing rage and boredom of healers is long past the point of applying sugar to our criticism. I have to say this situation has me practically begging for a new mmorpg to come in and give me a new home. No longer being passively disgusted at healer design, having a house with no hoops to go through and a craft system that can rival this game… that’s all I ask…but here I am still venting…still…wondering… what do we have to do to bash this into their heads D: !!!

    This game is still one of the better ones but wow have they been pulling some questionable choices over the years…
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  9. #1419
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    was running the 24man earlier today and so little damage was going out that i just challenged my cohealer to see who can overheal the most by throwing out all our heals with people at full health without losing dps.


    yoship was right. not because i agree with him, but in a cynical sort of realistic way. dragonsong ultimate cannot come out fast enough......... anyways i lost the bet. i guess keeping track of every single ogcd ast has is a bit more entertaining than playing normally?
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  10. #1420
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    What if we all protested by unsubbing and playing FF11?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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