Why do free companies get the lion's share of the plots?

[Wolfenrir]

Well thanks to that house scalping is already happening, seen it in a discord server someone selling a large in Ishgard for 800m, bravo SE, you fixed housing.

edit: forgot to mention where

[SuperSxyNerd]

Its super important that FCs with 1 member like "Tater Thots" get the large house and subsequent FC exposure they need to prosper and grow in the land of eorzea.

Not all heroes wear capes. *whoosh*

[JessaHawke]

The fact is they DRASTICALLY overestimated the demand for FC housing. Yes some FCs don't have houses yet. But others that do primarily are looking to upgrade. Large/Medium plots were the most heavily targeted. Some smalls didn't get bids or even got single bidders.

The math with this is horribly one-sided towards accommodating FCs. 5 Districts, 18 wards marked FC-only, each ward has 60 plots. That's 1,080 plots per district for 5,400 plots in total PER SERVER being dedicated to FCs. Meanwhile personals got 6 wards at 360 plots per district for a total of 1,800 plots assigned for personal housing per server. So basically anyone with a personal house is going to want to hold onto that for dear life because it's even harder to get one. And the demand for personals is far greater than the FC plots. Some of the personal wards had specific plots that went into the hundreds of bids.

Probably because they were bidding on larger plots. They'll all go in the next couple of rounds as the losers put entries in for their second or third choices. I don't think that they overestimated at all. Rather, I think they are trying to cut down on the trend of having personal housing.

[Yuzaki]

It's obvious and still they failed.

Prioritizing fc housing means nourishing real money sellers. Because private housing cannot be sold to anyone and private housing allows only 1 house per account.

The new system means for real money sellers:
- more houses to get with less rivalry (2/3 of houses reserved)
- no account limitation (e.g. only 1 private house per account)
- possibility to sell via real money (private housing cannot be sold, as the lottery makes it impossible to hand over the house to a buyer...)

So in the end the loyal players get pranked...
Even restricting the old wards... very sad

[Zel_Zackarias]

Probably because they were bidding on larger plots. They'll all go in the next couple of rounds as the losers put entries in for their second or third choices. I don't think that they overestimated at all. Rather, I think they are trying to cut down on the trend of having personal housing.

Except for the fact that even on heavily populated worlds, Jenova for instance, there were tons of open FC plots available. Yes, they were mostly/all small, but there weren't hundreds of bids gong on the large or medium plots even on main ward divisions that i ever saw. Subdivisions had even less people bidding on FC plots. Most of these bids were one or two FCs vying for the coveted space of bigger houses. But I highly doubt there is a need for 1,080 FC plots for just Ishgard times however many formerly personal plots open up after people have relocated from the old districts.

Anything left over that sits longer has the chance to go to private single character FCs as any made recently meeting the 4 character requirement with at least 1 being in it for 30 days can then go by up an FC plot and SE has then fixed nothing. They only need 3 alts and their main in the "FC" and can then give each one the Gil to bid on the desired plot.

I get that FC houses "service more people", but that's only assuming there's that many more active FCs going and I don't think this is the case. Also, people don't want more single rooms spread out across their one or multiple characters. They could fix this problem with one person getting multiple houses real fast by making it one personal house PER ACCOUNT and not per character and that would really cut down on houses being taken by the same person across different characters and methods.

As of like 3 or 4 hours after lotto ended only 1 large and 2 mediums got built in the subdivision my FC won our house at plus the small we got. So it's a myth that every FC only wants the bigger houses. It would have been nice, but we are small and only had the Gil to get multiple bids on a small age factoring in cost of building the house and then the 1.1 mil needed to build the workshop and FC rooms. Not to mention cost of decorating which I'll be doing by myself.

I'll be interested to see what else got added when I get on in a few minutes.

[Colt47]

They probably should just go the scorched earth method and remove the housing in the game entirely. It would be better to have resources put into a new system that works than to keep a system that can't take the player load. It might make a lot of folks angry, but housing already is just a sea of salt and fire so at least it puts and end to the giant flaming ball of nightmares.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Except for the fact that even on heavily populated worlds, Jenova for instance, there were tons of open FC plots available. Yes, they were mostly/all small, but there weren't hundreds of bids gong on the large or medium plots even on main ward divisions that i ever saw. Subdivisions had even less people bidding on FC plots. Most of these bids were one or two FCs vying for the coveted space of bigger houses. But I highly doubt there is a need for 1,080 FC plots for just Ishgard times however many formerly personal plots open up after people have relocated from the old districts.

Anything left over that sits longer has the chance to go to private single character FCs as any made recently meeting the 4 character requirement with at least 1 being in it for 30 days can then go by up an FC plot and SE has then fixed nothing. They only need 3 alts and their main in the "FC" and can then give each one the Gil to bid on the desired plot.

I get that FC houses "service more people", but that's only assuming there's that many more active FCs going and I don't think this is the case. Also, people don't want more single rooms spread out across their one or multiple characters. They could fix this problem with one person getting multiple houses real fast by making it one personal house PER ACCOUNT and not per character and that would really cut down on houses being taken by the same person across different characters and methods.

As of like 3 or 4 hours after lotto ended only 1 large and 2 mediums got built in the subdivision my FC won our house at plus the small we got. So it's a myth that every FC only wants the bigger houses. It would have been nice, but we are small and only had the Gil to get multiple bids on a small age factoring in cost of building the house and then the 1.1 mil needed to build the workshop and FC rooms. Not to mention cost of decorating which I'll be doing by myself.

I'll be interested to see what else got added when I get on in a few minutes.

It already is only one personal house per account? I have my alt and she could not purchase a second PRIVATE house, she owns my FC house for myself and friends. I tested the private plot thing myself when I was hunting for a small house initially for my FC, you cannot buy a second private house.
Ultimately anything other than adding vastly more housing is a bandaid that will never please everyone. They need some wards dedicated to larger houses and they need to increase the item limit in them because it is laughable expecting to furnish a large house with only 400 items. I don't even do the super detailed builds like some and my goblet mansion is irritatingly empty, I need to redo it and wall off the upstairs and that is unacceptable.

[YandeBunny]

They probably should just go the scorched earth method and remove the housing in the game entirely. It would be better to have resources put into a new system that works than to keep a system that can't take the player load. It might make a lot of folks angry, but housing already is just a sea of salt and fire so at least it puts and end to the giant flaming ball of nightmares.

Sadly, they're too far gone with that option if they dont want to loose there players. The mass amount of people who already put there all into this game and there plot, going Thanos on the residentials areas would most likely cause a riot on extreme measures for those who did invest time and gil into there private homes, FC workshop, etc.

I personally think they should wean this out with instanced housing. If you have a FC house or Private house, cool. You're grandfathered in. But if SE makes instanced housings, they should make it BETTER where there's no need to struggle with glitching furniture into place, furniture can be floated anywhere and so on. And even have it to where people can click a person and have the option to visit there house (implementing private and public visitations as well). They can even make it to where if you have a private house, you don't get the option to make an instance house. This is how they could make players consider moving. Those who leave there FC house and/or private plot can get a full refund of the plot's value. And the plot gets deactivated instantly from being purchased or whatever.

Mind you all, this is just an idea I think would suffice towards this whole housing dilemma. When they first added apartments, I thought this was there way of helping those who wanted something "private" since they don't have to worry about the demolition system like regular housing plots. But I can see now they didn't even utilize their recourses. They could have even added the ability to make all plots upgradable: Making FC's work hard to even upgrade a small plot to Medium, and medium to large with missions in the workshop. Because lets be real, most FC's aren't trying to get a small plot.

I just don't see a point in having neighbors at this point, because most of my time is in the FC yard or inside, and my friends visit me at my apartment or FC house with a simple "click" to my character and teleport to apartment or FC house.