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  1. #31
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Would be better if they'd never done hrothgar and put all the work into viera.
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    Player Xavier_Firbold's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    How to say you don't know a thing about how the development process of things without saying you don't know a thing about the development process of things.

    There aren't people just sitting around to be thrown at this relatively low priority project. They have MSQ, Ultimates, raids, extremes, DC Travel, Island Sanctuary, armor and weapons for ALL that, mounts, minions, and whatever else they have in the works. They can't just hop from one thing to another carelessly or quality AND productivity would drop drastically.

    Your statement comes from a place of ignorance and misunderstanding, so don't parade it around. It's embarrassing.
    Apologies, I just don't boot lick a company. The only arrogance you're showing here is your own, 14 is the HIGHEST grossing income MMO of all time, at least in real terms.

    They're actively hiring at this very moment, and I hope to hell they put these resources into a more useful workflow.

    Also, if you have any sort of presence on the internet, you'll know that modders (single entity, people) carry out fixes to this game within 6 hours of it going live and issues being identified. It's honestly laughable at this point and I frequent enough discord servers to know that this is now the norm. The Devs literally have ZERO motivation to fix the things we care about.

    Talking of things being embarassing, I'll refer you to the sentence above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    It hurts to say that we aren't happy with the current options because we know that a lot of work went into it
    As much as I like the game, I have to disagree. The amount of work that went into it is but a fraction of what other races receive. And that's only one gender. And I, personally, don't feel bad in the slightest. First off, I see it as giving feedback, and secondly, the did a shoddy job, period. And that's in stark contrast to what they usually do.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    Apologies, I just don't boot lick a company. The only arrogance you're showing here is your own, 14 is the HIGHEST grossing income MMO of all time, at least in real terms.

    They're actively hiring at this very moment, and I hope to hell they put these resources into a more useful workflow.

    Also, if you have any sort of presence on the internet, you'll know that modders (single entity, people) carry out fixes to this game within 6 hours of it going live and issues being identified. It's honestly laughable at this point and I frequent enough discord servers to know that this is now the norm. The Devs literally have ZERO motivation to fix the things we care about.

    Talking of things being embarassing, I'll refer you to the sentence above.
    That you have to have to compare modders to people who have to check their work with the team coders and QA multiple times, people who aren't allowed to decide what they work on and when they work for themselves while calling me a boot licker only further proves my point. You're just looking to be angry and blame people rather than trying to understand that they have very specific procedures and rules to follow, all while insulting anyone who tries to point this out to you.

    At this point speaking to you is getting both of us nowhere. Hopefully you will cool off in the future. Have a nice weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    As much as I like the game, I have to disagree. The amount of work that went into it is but a fraction of what other races receive. And that's only one gender. And I, personally, don't feel bad in the slightest. First off, I see it as giving feedback, and secondly, the did a shoddy job, period. And that's in stark contrast to what they usually do.
    They didn't make hrothgar with the intention of having very many hairstyles, they established this. That they are trying to add them at all is a show of good will toward the players considering that apparently the models for the hrothgar heads are handled a fair bit differently from the other races.

    Did they do a shoddy job? Yes, but rather than assume that the devs just don't care, you should be trying to offer solutions that work with their stated issues with working on this content, otherwise nothing's going to get fixed and you'll just be crying into the void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    More like incompetent. It's blunt but it's true, incompetency is the only reason I can think of for the reason they'd ever consider releasing something so half assed.
    Might be me being hyperbolic, but seems like they are falling back into their 1.0 ideology of 'patch it later'. I want to give the team some benefit of the doubt and suggest that maybe FF16 is taking away from 14. SQ-EN likes to spread their talent thin for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercinotrix View Post
    They literally changed the entirety of house buying and ward allocation due to the forums.
    Yeah, and we see just how well THAT worked out... If they paid attention to the forums they'd have seen us calling them out on their utter refusal to invest in the storage space required to give everyone a shot at a house, which is their job if they're going to offer housing at all. You can't just provide enough housing for the lucky ones and expect no lash back. The fact that they changed the system WOULD have been meaningful if the system wasn't just still covering up the fact that they STILL can't provide a house for everyone who can afford one. We, as consumers, do not have to be understanding or patient at all. This is a problem that's over ten years old, and they're still cutting corners and refusing to invest in enough storage space. But sure, they read this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Oh please. They read the forums. They just rarely say anything because they can’t react in real time to the million topics that get generated on a daily basis. You can’t design things that take 3 - 4 months to develop by interacting with the shifting whims of people on here. Best they can do is react to general trends or implement an idea they saw on here and liked. But by the time it comes out the thread they got the idea from is probably buried in page 600 of the forums and no one remembers it.
    It's currently one of the most controversial topics, not only in here but around the community (5ch, Discord servers, Twitter, Reddit). Memes have been flying around like crazy. Content Creators reacted to it.

    It's not your random "Oh X healer is bad pls fix". It's currently one of the topics with the most posts in the shortest amount of time.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercinotrix View Post
    They literally changed the entirety of house buying and ward allocation due to the forums.
    Changed it. Didn't improve it. It's just as bad just in different ways.
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    For some weird, I couldn't login here for a while.
    It's good that we have a response as I said in the other thread, I prefer hairstyles custom made for Hrothgar, even if we get less than other races.

    I don't mind if I can't use headgear however hairstyles have to be amazing to make up to that!
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