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    This has been a gem of a finding for me, thank you for this post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    This has been a gem of a finding for me, thank you for this post
    Thanks for digging this back up, though unfortunately I see it getting buried down again shortly as measured analysis are not great at drawing attention.

    And ironically, they didnt just remove kaiten, they made it so that gyoten is now same potency per kenki as shinten and now you will be looking to squeeze out extra gyotens in buffs

    So in the end it wasn't even a CPM reduction, which further defeats their originally stated reason of lowering action bloat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon_S View Post
    So in the end it wasn't even a CPM reduction, which further defeats their originally stated reason of lowering action bloat.
    Yay it's a very good analysis that debunks the argument point of Kaiten removal tackling Action Bloat, which it doesn't cause I don't see an Action Bloat issue it doesn't exist in my mind. In general I question a lot of decision making they are doing with our beloved class...

    On my Alt enjoying ARR updates (loving Cape Westwind xD) Fuga, teaches new SAM's Cone into Circle AoE combo, only to need to unlearn it later as Fuga gets turned into a Circle AoE?

    Sen Management is made easier QOL that's fine, but Kenki management will not be encouraged with the removal of Kaiten... only " Kitchen Sinking Kenki "

    Not to mention the introduction towards Tenka Goken, being a circular cast from the center forces the Samurai to often times be in danger puddles. Dodging it will make the Circle radius we have with Tenka Goken not cover the mobs we want to hit... and I already know an argument would be " well Oka and Mangetsu are Circle AOE's why complain? " and well those AoE skills do not have a cast time requiring me to stand still... it feels unpolished now... and a downgrade...

    Gyoten dash yes has become part of my pot opener which is also... I have so many questions towards their decision making... There are so many ways they could have done good changes or not done anything even at all and we would be completely content only to ruin it this badly now and ignore feedback? I am just questioning many things...
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