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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiraAmane View Post
    I know this wasn't directly posted at me, but for the record (since we were server first on Besaid), our main WHM didn't log onto the game the entire first day and a half. Most of our LS had school. Two of us went out on Saturday night to drink. On top of that, we all went for 7/7 jobs first before even going in the dungeon.

    So despite what you think, not everyone is no lifing for wins. Surprise, surprise: there are skilled players out there like DoW, BG etc. Oh an Da Ra su! :P

    And all this hate why? Maybe because you haven't beat the dungeon yet? And even if you did, don't hate on people who enjoy the game for the inner-server competition.
    And seriously, all congratulations to you and your LS. The difference here is, you didn't (that I know of) splatter the boards with spoiler videos and pics as if you hadn't done so many times before just hours after every major patch. I just get sick of seeing "We did it, and we did it first - and look, we've I've masked our my gratuitous self-promotion by offering it up as a shiny video guide that we just know you'll all want and love. Thank me later!" Chrissakes, read the thread title. It says, "Please don't forget we're I'm awesome!"

    I have no doubt there are Linkshells out there that are equally as good as the two in question, and why do we not suffer their existence with each new patch?

    No, I haven't completed the new dungeons yet and that's hardly the meaning or motive behind what I'm trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    And seriously, all congratulations to you and your LS. The difference here is, you didn't (that I know of) splatter the boards with spoiler videos and pics as if you hadn't done so many times before just hours after every major patch. I just get sick of seeing "We did it, and we did it first - and look, we've I've masked our my gratuitous self-promotion by offering it up as a shiny video guide that we just know you'll all want and love. Thank me later!" Chrissakes, read the thread title. It says, "Please don't forget we're I'm awesome!"

    I have no doubt there are Linkshells out there that are equally as good as the two in question, and why do we not suffer their existence with each new patch?

    No, I haven't completed the new dungeons yet and that's hardly the meaning or motive behind what I'm trying to say.
    Yah the internet has single handedly ruined end game for people. I love people posting they are world first, I would just prefer if they didn't post the strategies after 2 days
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    Like one has said before, if Mog/BG really had something to lose by posting these vids, I'm willing to bet you'd see a lot less of them. This is why you don't see people posting videos of raw information on how to make the most with the least amount of effort. Doing so would equate Coca-Cola publicly releasing their formula for the sake of proving god-knows-what.

    Anyhow, if you really want to post something impressive, fuck the world/server first - show it done with multiple setups and not this liquid cookie-cutter setup that's already formed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    This was probably the world first kill, don't forget that part XD. Nobody knew how to kill it at all and this was our 2nd attempt at him.
    wrong and wrong.
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    I am so disappointed in Aurum Vale. We tried it for the first time today and got Cyclops down our first run. Morbol down our 4th run. Took us literally 3.5 hours O.O. We didn't watch any strats, just ran in blind and figured it out.

    I guess 5 chest will add to difficulty, but now its just rinse and repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Like one has said before, if Mog/BG really had something to lose by posting these vids, I'm willing to bet you'd see a lot less of them. This is why you don't see people posting videos of raw information on how to make the most with the least amount of effort. Doing so would equate Coca-Cola publicly releasing their formula for the sake of proving god-knows-what.

    Anyhow, if you really want to post something impressive, fuck the world/server first - show it done with multiple setups and not this liquid cookie-cutter setup that's already formed.
    Why do you care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Like one has said before, if Mog/BG really had something to lose by posting these vids, I'm willing to bet you'd see a lot less of them. This is why you don't see people posting videos of raw information on how to make the most with the least amount of effort. Doing so would equate Coca-Cola publicly releasing their formula for the sake of proving god-knows-what.

    Anyhow, if you really want to post something impressive, fuck the world/server first - show it done with multiple setups and not this liquid cookie-cutter setup that's already formed.
    How the hell are we doing cookie cutter setups?

    My videos are the first videos on the web usually, and only tutorial on the web at the time. So explain to me how being the first person to do something, with no information on the web of other setups or strategies, equates to "cookie cutter"?

    It doesn't.

    Anyone who copies MY video setup (seeing as we provided the strategy AND the video before its found anywhere else) is copying OUR setup. Thus making it "cookie cutter." It becomes "cookie cutter" when people follow my strategy. Its not cookie cutter when I INVENT the strategy.

    Try and find a video or strategy posted before my videos of Chimera Kill.
    You can't. There were none.

    Now, if YOU want to start making videos for the community of alternative setups, to help them, be my guest.

    Otherwise, piss off.

    I do this to help people who otherwise would not be able to complete the content. If you can't see that, you are blind. If I never posted the "How to kill XXX" videos, I would be ensuring more farm time for my own LS while everyone else figured it out, now wouldn't I?

    But then you would probably be bitching that I was hoarding the win strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    How the hell are we doing cookie cutter setups?

    My videos are the first videos on the web usually, and only tutorial on the web at the time. So explain to me how being the first person to do something, with no information on the web of other setups or strategies, equates to "cookie cutter"?

    It doesn't.

    Anyone who copies MY video setup (seeing as we provided the strategy AND the video before its found anywhere else) is copying OUR setup. Thus making it "cookie cutter." It becomes "cookie cutter" when people follow my strategy. Its not cookie cutter when I INVENT the strategy.

    Try and find a video or strategy posted before my videos of Chimera Kill.
    You can't. There were none.

    Now, if YOU want to start making videos for the community of alternative setups, to help them, be my guest.

    Otherwise, piss off.

    I do this to help people who otherwise would not be able to complete the content. If you can't see that, you are blind. If I never posted the "How to kill XXX" videos, I would be ensuring more farm time for my own LS while everyone else figured it out, now wouldn't I?

    But then you would probably be bitching that I was hoarding the win strategy.
    Lol, bullshit dude. You do this to promote yourself and to brag - otherwise you wouldn't race the rest of Eorzea to General Discussion to post; Calling it a help reference/guide is a convenient by-product. I recall you requesting millions from people wishing to clear Darkhold at one point, even after making your famous "Darkhold Video Strat". Heh, some help desk. Sorry, I'm not one of your sheep around here.

    The fact that you are the original proprietor of said setup is a thin defense. A sheep is a sheep is a sheep. If you really want to help this community, do all the self-promotion you want, but as was said before, give the players some fucking time to figure it out for themselves. Post that you beat it first, post a shitload of screenshots if it pleases you, but fucking hell give the rest of Eorzea some adventure for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratharn View Post
    Why do you care?
    Read above, and then go back to minding your own business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Lol, bullshit dude. You do this to promote yourself and to brag - otherwise you wouldn't race the rest of Eorzea to General Discussion to post; Calling it a help reference/guide is a convenient by-product. I recall you requesting millions from people wishing to clear Darkhold at one point, even after making your famous "Darkhold Video Strat". Heh, some help desk. Sorry, I'm not one of your sheep around here.

    The fact that you are the original proprietor of said setup is a thin defense. A sheep is a sheep is a sheep. If you really want to help this community, do all the self-promotion you want, but as was said before, give the players some fucking time to figure it out for themselves. Post that you beat it first, post a shitload of screenshots if it pleases you, but fucking hell give the rest of Eorzea some adventure for themselves.
    Don't watch them then. Figure it out on your own.

    Nobody forced your eyes open and made you watch it. They are most definitely optional.

    Btw, are you seriously mad that I posted them "too quickly"?

    Someone has to be 1st man.
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