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  1. #21
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    I can't speak to the instant kill mechanics because I do agree that those--particularly Ninja's--can be pretty ugly to deal with firsthand, but as someone playing as an AST, let me weigh in on the other piece of criticism.

    I think the biggest problem with healers in PVP is less so the design in PVP and more the players' mindsets when approaching PVP in a way that healers would approach PVE or pre-CC PVP.

    Consider your job less of a "Healer" and more of a "Support". Yes, you have some healing and that can certainly help turn the tide, but in PVP, that is not your primary focus or job. With the restructuring of PVP actions, every single class regardless of role has a new playstyle vs what they did before.

    For example, it used to be an AST was just like every other healer. Heal players, maybe throw some DPS up cards on people, do a teensy bit of damage, try really hard not to die.

    New PVP AST is very much a Crowd Control / Support. Gravity II -> Double Cast and Macrocosmos are mainly used as huge AoE DPS abilities that do way more base damage than Fell Malefic. That along with throwing out DPS up / MP regen / LB Generation cards on cooldown and the best support LB in the game, healing starts to become an afterthought. Especially when you consider that every single job in PVP has their own unique sustain on top of a virtually spammable heal in the form of Recuperate. So you should not have to heal them as much as you feel like you need to. And if your party members are going down so fast that you feel like you need to be doing more healing, trust me. They were probably focusing that player down with extremely potent DPS and they weren't supposed to survive that kind of an onslaught.

    From what I am seeing just from the tooltips on the Job Guide, Sage's playstyle is that of an Enfeebler. Some of your best skills inflict Vulnerability on targets, letting your DPS/Tank party members deal way more damage to them, and SGE's LB is a god-tier Area Denial ability that you can slap down wherever you need enemies to not be, like a checkpoint.
    Basically what this person said. I would only add that queuing as a healer is still challenging given that most other teams still will tend to dogpile the healer. so my first act on my AST is to pray to RNG Jesus for a good card, throw that out, get out my gravity and then try not to die. it is definitely NOT to spam heals on anyone.
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  2. #22
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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Stardew
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raige View Post
    The Feast was crap. I quite enjoy this.
    Yes, you do get the short end of the straw on some teams randomly assigned to you, but then other times you do not.
    The rewards so far for season 1 are Plate Frames. You aren't missing anything crazyyyyyy. Yet.
    missing on that glamour at level 25 on the season card
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  3. #23
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    Abomination713's Avatar
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    Wyznberk Zwynbrodasyn
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    They didn't balance this crap at all. WAR is so much stronger compared to the other tanks that it's a fucking joke! They only cared about WAR and it shows. Which at this point isn't surprising any more since they have showed favoritism to WAR since patch 2.1 and I've seen it all as a PLD main.
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  4. #24
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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Stardew
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Why waste time for content like 10% of the playerbase even engages with? A lot of people are now forced to play a bad mode to get the glamor items and mounts from the event.

    See you in a month when you're calling this Feast 2.0 and we're back to Frontlines only exp queue.
    Honestly FL is a bit more fun with the rework and to be honest, i was really apprehensive about the changes. But I like the rework. Sure its more DPS focus and it does require teamwork and to focus burn a target but everyone has something to be able to contribute to the overall success of the team be it in CC or FL. But this is my opinion. Hopefully they will balance things out rather sooner than later.
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  5. #25
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    This is probably the most fun game mode since The Fold.
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  6. #26
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    Karni's Avatar
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    Smol Kahboom
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    How can anyone say with a straight face that there is any sliver of balance in this new pvp is beyond mad. Some of these skills that some jobs have is so over the top. Also i can just about guess every time what team is going to win before the match starts just looking at the party comps. SE has a lot of work ahead of them if they want to make this new pvp balanced and equally competitive imo
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  7. #27
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    Raige Osata
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    missing on that glamour at level 25 on the season card
    That is a series EXP reward. You get that for all modes of PVP regardless of Rank, Casual, FL, CC, etc. It's not a gated by a rank reward or even by winning. It's rewarded for just doing the content.



    (Good choice on the hairpin btw. )
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  8. #28
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    Droxybrobotnik's Avatar
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    Cute Milk'itkatt
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I feel the stun spam needs to be curbed, its very unenjoyable
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  9. #29
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik View Post
    I feel the stun spam needs to be curbed, its very unenjoyable
    Yeah...I'm kind of surprised they removed the diminishing returns and eventual CC immunity from PvP.

    Purify doesn't cut it, especially when latency often results in you getting CC'd again before the secondary immunity effect can even kick in.
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  10. #30
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    Haprimac's Avatar
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I'm having a lot of fun with it, and I don't usually enjoy PvP in XIV much.
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