New PvP mode is crap, please remove.

[Curisu]

The new one is nice.
Fast rounds and the chance for a comeback at any time.

It maybe is not 100% balanced but it also doesn't matter if I stay stuck in silver or get another lucky round of 11/2 like I had from unranked to silver.

Defenetly better more casual friendly then feast.

[KageTokage]

I much prefer it to the Feast where you'd get stuck in dull stalemates where nobody dies for several minutes at a time because the healers are competent but the DPS don't know how to coordinate burst.

Here, if there's any kind of significant skill disparity between the two teams one is inevitably going to start making headway as healers can no longer keep people alive for prolonged periods of time.

I do agree some jobs like MNK and BLM feel a bit...lacking compared to others, though. AoE heavy jobs really don't work out that well when you don't need everyone crowding into the control point to contest it and the jobs with oppressive amounts of single target burst like SAM and NIN seem better overall.

[KagerouTheWolf]

just don't do pvp ```

[HakuroDK]

In my mind, I look at Feast vs this to make my judgments. And right now, I'm playing way more CC and enjoying myself more--even when losing 10 matches in a row--than I ever did playing Feast. By a country mile. The matches are fast so a prolonged game isn't something that normally happens (which can demoralize a losing team way more than just taking the loss and moving on), I'm getting Series XP, currency, and tomes even for losing so losses don't feel nearly as punishing, and finally, FINALLY there's a way to get Wolf Collars that doesn't involve torturing myself queueing for 30+ minutes at a time in terrible matches that go on forever because people don't know how the game mode works.

Payload (What CC's rules are based on) may not be as easy to understand as Deathmatch, but it's easy enough compared to "Collect the coins, but not too many or you become more frail and get focused down and--oh no, we're dead."

[KizuyaKatogami]

just don't do pvp ```

That’s not addressing the problems though. While i do agree it shouldn’t be axed immediately, it needs to be fixed somewhat. Idk why in any pvp mode you would give multiple jobs instant kill abilities. Not only that but it looks like they kind of destroyed healer kits. Sage’s only form of healing is in kardia??? I’m all aboard with healers getting more dps options but to only make the healing available via a single target partner buff and their mitigation tools being pretty minor…oof. It seems like there’s a lot of balancing that needs to be done.

[HakuroDK]

I can't speak to the instant kill mechanics because I do agree that those--particularly Ninja's--can be pretty ugly to deal with firsthand, but as someone playing as an AST, let me weigh in on the other piece of criticism.

I think the biggest problem with healers in PVP is less so the design in PVP and more the players' mindsets when approaching PVP in a way that healers would approach PVE or pre-CC PVP.

Consider your job less of a "Healer" and more of a "Support". Yes, you have some healing and that can certainly help turn the tide, but in PVP, that is not your primary focus or job. With the restructuring of PVP actions, every single class regardless of role has a new playstyle vs what they did before.

For example, it used to be an AST was just like every other healer. Heal players, maybe throw some DPS up cards on people, do a teensy bit of damage, try really hard not to die.

New PVP AST is very much a Crowd Control / Support. Gravity II -> Double Cast and Macrocosmos are mainly used as huge AoE DPS abilities that do way more base damage than Fell Malefic. That along with throwing out DPS up / MP regen / LB Generation cards on cooldown and the best support LB in the game, healing starts to become an afterthought. Especially when you consider that every single job in PVP has their own unique sustain on top of a virtually spammable heal in the form of Recuperate. So you should not have to heal them as much as you feel like you need to. And if your party members are going down so fast that you feel like you need to be doing more healing, trust me. They were probably focusing that player down with extremely potent DPS and they weren't supposed to survive that kind of an onslaught.

From what I am seeing just from the tooltips on the Job Guide, Sage's playstyle is that of an Enfeebler. Some of your best skills inflict Vulnerability on targets, letting your DPS/Tank party members deal way more damage to them, and SGE's LB is a god-tier Area Denial ability that you can slap down wherever you need enemies to not be, like a checkpoint.

[Oizen]

Nah I say keep making it for those that want it and you go do something else

Why waste time for content like 10% of the playerbase even engages with? A lot of people are now forced to play a bad mode to get the glamor items and mounts from the event.

See you in a month when you're calling this Feast 2.0 and we're back to Frontlines only exp queue.

[ty_taurus]

Why waste time for content like 10% of the playerbase even engages with? A lot of people are now forced to play a bad mode to get the glamor items and mounts from the event.

See you in a month when you're calling this Feast 2.0 and we're back to Frontlines only exp queue.

Who forced you to do anything? It's optional. Did someone hold you at gunpoint and demand you play 15 hours of PVP on patch day?

[Divinemights]

Why waste time for content like 10% of the playerbase even engages with? A lot of people are now forced to play a bad mode to get the glamor items and mounts from the event.

See you in a month when you're calling this Feast 2.0 and we're back to Frontlines only exp queue.

Who forced you to play again?
Please process a little bit more in side your brain before you are saying something
This is theme park MMO, no once force you to play something you don’t like

[Ransu]

Remove yourself instead OP. The new pvp mode is great.