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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    its just as undertuned as before? thats a blow

    Unsurprising though. SE has been undertuning extremes since stormblood more and more to the point there's little challenge in most of them in the face of a party that has basic competence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    its just as undertuned as before? thats a blow

    Unsurprising though. SE has been undertuning extremes since stormblood more and more to the point there's little challenge in most of them in the face of a party that has basic competence
    EX haven't been hard since Sephirot
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    its just as undertuned as before? thats a blow

    Unsurprising though. SE has been undertuning extremes since stormblood more and more to the point there's little challenge in most of them in the face of a party that has basic competence
    If I recall, Ultima was never intended to be an EX trial but essentially a souped up normal mode. Hence why it didn't have the "Extreme" naming conversion. Given this was their first attempt at introducing harder fights, I'd cut them some slack back in the day.

    That begs the question though, why even pick Ultima for the Unreal treatment if you were intending to soup up his damage? Yoshida even said he favored Sephirot of all fights but felt with all the ARR changes that Ultima would suit better. The difference between Ultima and Sephirot's difficult is an order of magnitude. Which does have me wondering if what Yoshida said was only partially true, and they swapped fights last minute due to realizing just how difficult Sephirot is. After all, he borders on the Savage level by today's standards. In fact, I'd argue min ilvl Sephirot is harder than P1S and possibly on par with P2S.
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    Dzonathan Gavert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    its just as undertuned as before? thats a blow

    Unsurprising though. SE has been undertuning extremes since stormblood more and more to the point there's little challenge in most of them in the face of a party that has basic competence
    Just a radical thought. Maybe it's not the content that is undertuned but players who are overcompetent?
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