Well, now I know how tanks and healers feel.

[Enjuden]

Thanks SE, you decided to ruin Samurai for no reason. Again.

Maybe have someone who actually knows what they're doing on job balance instead of picking someone who doesn't even bother playing the game. I guarantee you they would never have made this change if they actually play tested it themselves and knew Samurai.

Stats are out and it shows the nerf is gigantic on dps and now it feels god awful to play on top of it without Kaiten. So not only did you decide throwing Sam back into a joke job was worthwhile, but make it feel like crap to play too.

Thanks for making a job change LITERALLY NOBODY asked for. It's just as bad as Hagakure removal, if not worse.

[ryouma17]

oh no they removed a useless ability from a class time to go uninstall the game is totally ruined now

[Enjuden]

oh no they removed a useless ability from a class time to go uninstall the game is totally ruined now

Makes wild hot takes that are arbitrary

Doesn't play any high level content.

Yea. Don't post and keep your opinions to yourself.

[ZephyrMenodora]

oh no they removed a useless ability from a class time to go uninstall the game is totally ruined now

The reason many of us are upset is because the skill added to the fantasy and uniqueness of the class with it's theme and animation. I loved the concept of winding up a carefully executed and powerful sword attack, and it made me feel like a Samurai. I also loved the random spike DPS that made me feel like I executed a decisive, mortal blow.

There were other areas of button bloat to reduce that people would have welcomed - this wasn't one of them.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The reason many of us are upset is because the skill added to the fantasy and uniqueness of the class with it's theme and animation. I loved the concept of winding up a carefully executed and powerful sword attack, and it made me feel like a Samurai. I also loved the random spike DPS that made me feel like I executed a decisive, mortal blow.

There were other areas of button bloat to reduce that people would have welcomed - this wasn't one of them.

I agree. They should just get rid of oki namakiri and put setsugekka back to 5.x potencies.

It was a dps nerf when they added it. And it feels terrible to use.

[Gemina]

Thing is. They already ruined SAM with EW. This was foreshadowed in the ShB trailer when Derplander's SAM gets owned and stepped on by just a Sineater. Not even a light warden.

6.1 has just kicked dirt in their face. Man this job used to be so cool. Total weeb service. Now it's just so bleh

[Kolsykol]

oh no they removed a useless ability from a class time to go uninstall the game is totally ruined now

Ok lvl 80 SAM.

[Vahlnir]

It is absolutely wonderful in the new PvP mode though. Still, by all accounts, they really shouldn't have tried to fix what wasn't broken.

[Cinno]

oh no they removed a useless ability from a class time to go uninstall the game is totally ruined now

If you think the ability was useless, you don't know the job very well at all. It affected the whole flow.

Honestly, I don't care about potency, or damage numbers. But i've been trying to get the hang of this new samurai since the patch dropped, and even though i'm already overcoming the muscle memory, the new samurai just feels bad to me.

With the removal of Kaiten, we now have nothing to spend our gauge on besides Shinten... yes theres also Senai, but it's on a two minute cooldown along with Ikishoten...

Before, we had to put SOME thought into managing our kenki.. We had to make sure we were properly using Shinten, but making sure that when it was time for Midare or Higanbana, that we had enough kenki in reserve for kaiten. It was very mindless but keeping that balance required even just a little thought... and it kept it interesting.

Now we just press Shinten every time it lights up. Doesnt matter if our gauge stays at zero, the only other thing we use the gauge for is Senai... but we can just use Ikishoten on cooldown with Senai, and that problem solves itself... So dont think, just endlessly weave in Shinten between every single attack. No thought, no skill.... no effort. When it lights up, you hit it... over and over.

I was actually on board with changing Tenka Goken into a circle, until i got into a dungeon and tried it myself. Before We had to stand in the mobs for our circle aoes, and then move to the side and aim our conal, then return for more circles. I THOUGHT that changing it to a circle would be cool... but now i litterally just stand in one spot, zone out, and just press my aoe skills until the pack dies...

Both of these changes took things that required very little thought, and very little effort, and changed them into things that now require zero thought, and zero effort.

Shinten is lit up? Press it. Enemies are gathered? Stand in one spot until they're dead. Don't think. Don't try..

This patch has demoralized me. I've leveled almost all the jobs in game up to at least 80, and gotten a large handful of them up to cap already.. but Samurai has been my favorite. It's been the most fun to play for me, and the one i've put the most effort and time into getting good at playing... And now it feels like a completely different, watered down version of itself. And i'm not sure what to do at this point.

[Tsukino]

It's one ability. AST gets completely overhauled every expansion. Not quite the same thing.