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  1. #71
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    LeonKeyh's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Leon Keyh
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Speaking of changes though, Aero II costs 200 MP but does the same amount of damage as Dia now. So... Dia is just 200 MP more expensive than Aero II. WHM's Lv 72 DoT is a downgrade.

    Just let that sink in.
    Nah, it's a cooler animation. You don't get cooler animations for free.
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  2. #72
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Seriously? This is a problem?

    Dungeons have been face roll easy for nearly a decade. I was happy when they started adding Hard Mode dungeons, but depressed when they stopped adding them after Stormblood. Shadowbringers and Endwalker seem to have the exact same dungeon cadence. This also shows in the difficulty as well.

    Dungeons are strictly a story experience sadly. When I can steam roll through any dungeon with bloodwhetting on cooldown, and SE still hasn't changed how it works tells me something.

    Dungeons are supposed to be face roll. They are the lowest rung on the ladder for the barrier for entry to the game. When I started getting into extremes nearly laser focused in Shadowbringers...you start to see that those skills that made dungeons trivial...are downright nearly useless in a 1v1 situation. Even more so when I started endwalkers 1st savage tier. You think dungeons are hard????? Try Flames of Asphadelos in P3S....that is a "Test of your reflexes!"

    This makes me glad criterion dungeons are on the way, and hopefully....HOPEFULLY they can give me that challenge I have been craving in dungeons.

    If dungeons are hard....great. Try getting better? Maybe read a job guide?

    If dungeons are easy...great. Try extremes, savage, ultimate, unreal. The game does NOT tell you "Wow that dungeon was easy....try this other stuff that may be more your challenge."
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  3. #73
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    HisShadowX's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    William Hart
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    They didn’t buff any healing aspects outside of WHM Lilies now generate one every 20 seconds instead of 30 seconds, and Soteria now has 4 stacks with 70% increase versus 50%. Potencies for basic heals and other oGCDs are still the same. Most 6.1 adjustments for healers were reduced MP costs.
    Oh I loved playing my White Mage after the patch the healing is awesome. I don't care about the DPS as a Healer like you people so yeah the patch was great.
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  4. #74
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    Oh I loved playing my White Mage after the patch the healing is awesome. I don't care about the DPS as a Healer like you people so yeah the patch was great.
    I have been asking for YEARS that tanks take more damage in dungeons.....years. Then healers would actually sweat and not need to DPS.

    But again. Dungeons are not the stage for HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD for playing perfect. It's designed to be easy so that you can enjoy the story. Healers seem to sweat pretty good in P3S or AST during Pinax in P4S
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    Last edited by Sqwall; 04-13-2022 at 11:18 PM.

  5. #75
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    Chifond's Avatar
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    Chifond Farchild
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Dead End is a problem? Are we even playing the same game? This dungeon is still considered MSQ dungeon and the difficulty is already passable if not in the lower bar already, stop asking them to make it easier than this
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  6. #76
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    Oh I loved playing my White Mage after the patch the healing is awesome. I don't care about the DPS as a Healer like you people so yeah the patch was great.
    The healing wasn’t changed my dude. 0/10 response score.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    I have been asking for YEARS that tanks take more damage in dungeons.....years. Then healers would actually sweat and not need to DPS.

    But again. Dungeons are not the stage for HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD for playing perfect. It's designed to be easy so that you can enjoy the story. Healers seem to sweat pretty good in P3S or AST during Pinax in P4S
    Not decent healers. They still deal damage the majority of the time in both.
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  7. #77
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    Hikari Tamamo
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    While I dislike my ilvl being forced down, and the fact that Ra-la starts using prance whenever my gnashing fang combo comes up, I wouldn't really call the dungeon "brutal". More like, "annoying". I kind of wish it'd been cycled out of expert roulette.
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  8. #78
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I might be blind, but I have read the OP multiple times, and I still don't understand the problem?

    I have never had any issues with this dungeon as either tank or healer. people might die to the first boss,but I have never seen anyone blaming the tank.
    Even if they blame the tank, whats the issue? they are clearly in the wrong, so just tell them to stop dying and learn the mechanics.
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  9. #79
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    Misha Fiertze
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    I might be blind, but I have read the OP multiple times, and I still don't understand the problem?

    I have never had any issues with this dungeon as either tank or healer. people might die to the first boss,but I have never seen anyone blaming the tank.
    Even if they blame the tank, whats the issue? they are clearly in the wrong, so just tell them to stop dying and learn the mechanics.
    OP basically no interested learning mechanics.. or it is what I understand.
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  10. #80
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Let's just say I have a "feeling" that the OP doesn't use Holy Spirit, Holy Circle, Arms Length, Reprisal, Goring Blade, Fight or Flight or Low Blow at all, mostly ignores Intervene and maybe uses 2-3 Rampart and Sentinel per Expert.

    Just a "hunch".

    I'm sure it's those evil dps healers really.
    Well, that or the dps was so horrible that using every mit on planet earth aint going to save you. I've been in two of those and the moment I had to finally blow holmgang, I sort of said to myself "are these dps even using a single OGCD?" I mean, the gear caps at 570 in there. Even the NPCs in the trusts felt like they did more.
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