No group queue in Crystalline Conflict made all my friends uninstall :(

[Arrius]

its a casual playlist, that shouldn't matter. if you want to win, go play ranked, where victory actually matters and there's no premades.

Winning on Casual grants a bigger payout in XP for your PvP and Series Rank (700 vs 900 XP). So it matters if you put in some effort of doing your best in it.
This won't go well when you have to fight premades that run certain setups and become unkillable. And there are certain setups that really are difficult

So it's best to have the premades fight exclusively their own. Nothing wrong to get put on equal sized teams, right?

Or maybe that was not your intention in first place, and instead just wanting to slap non-premades around and having a good time with your friends at the expense of the others, who might have been unlucky to be matched against your group, for quick XP and looking good on the scorecards to flex on it.

Because, lets face it, quite some people get their fuzzy feelings by owning people in PvP.

[Tlachtga]

Winning on Casual grants a bigger payout in XP for your PvP and Series Rank (700 vs 900 XP). So it matters if you put in some effort of doing your best in it.
This won't go well when you have to fight premades that run certain setups and become unkillable. And there are certain setups that really are difficult

So it's best to have the premades fight exclusively their own. Nothing wrong to get put on equal sized teams, right?

Or maybe that was not your intention in first place, and instead just wanting to slap non-premades around and having a good time with your friends at the expense of the others, who might have been unlucky to be matched against your group, for quick XP and looking good on the scorecards to flex on it.

Because, lets face it, quite some people get their fuzzy feelings by owning people in PvP.

or maybe i just want to play the new pvp mode in a playlist where i can dick around with friends and do dumb stuff without caring about win/loss or performance. you know, fun.

Agreed generally, but you don't want to push out solo casual queuers since every time they queue they're just steamrolled. Then people who don't realize it's because they're playing against premades will think that is a "normal" experience in PvP and just not play.

I think that:

Casual - Solo
Casual - Premade (1-5 players)
Ranked - Solo

would be good enough. Casual premade would allow solo players and smaller groups to fill in parties <5 players. That lets people play together while maintaining the "integrity" of the ranked and solo casual groups.

prolly a better idea honestly since its better for duos/triples as well

[Elesh]

or maybe i just want to play the new pvp mode in a playlist where i can dick around with friends and do dumb stuff without caring about win/loss or performance. you know, fun.



prolly a better idea honestly since its better for duos/triples as well

Problem with separating it that was is that solos would never queue in the casual - premade queue(why would they?), which would mean 4-man groups might as well not exist, and duos would only be able to group with trios, which creates weird bottlenecks based off of size of groups people play in.

Better to just do casual - any size and ranked - solo only