New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Retrisar]

Greetings, everyone.

As there have been a lot of feedback surrounding Hrothgar and their hairstyles, we wanted to share a recent update from Yoshida during the recent patch notes reading. On the stream he discussed the specifications of Hrothgar and the difficulties regarding adding hairstyles for them.

They think that we stupid or something?
Mods in day one was able to add ears to those abomination which they dare call a hairstyle.

When they say that it would take them more time to add something new then now... so it's gonna be now 6y ? They rly doesn't have any shame to say that?

Mods are more capable than this entire studio... and they charge us monthly for this game. Its just show how lazy they are, adding half finished races and complaining that we want them to finish their work.

[Vahlnir]

They think that we stupid or something?
Mods in day one was able to add ears to those abomination which they dare call a hairstyle.

When they say that it would take them more time to add something new then now... so it's gonna be now 6y ? They rly doesn't have any shame to say that?

Mods are more capable than this entire studio... and they charge us monthly for this game. Its just show how lazy they are, adding half finished races and complaining that we want them to finish their work.

I really don't think that they think we are stupid. But I do think that they are blindsided now that we aren't praising their every decision.

[Maxilor]

I really don't think that they think we are stupid. But I do think that they are blindsided now that we aren't praising their every decision.

Uh oh....Constructive Criticism!?

How dreadful.

But seriously, if modders can do this stuff way better than they could couldn't they have asked/compensated the modders for their work and just implemented the mod into the base game?

It's not like doing that is unheard of.

[SturmChurro]

But I do think that they are blindsided now that we aren't praising their every decision.

Yep, I'd say this is what is going on. Doing what seems like bare minimum isn't working as much anymore.

[Denji]

They think that we stupid or something?
Mods in day one was able to add ears to those abomination which they dare call a hairstyle.

When they say that it would take them more time to add something new then now... so it's gonna be now 6y ? They rly doesn't have any shame to say that?

Mods are more capable than this entire studio... and they charge us monthly for this game. Its just show how lazy they are, adding half finished races and complaining that we want them to finish their work.

Be prepared to have this transcript pasted several times instead of having any proper answers. Infuriating but considering how long it took for them to tell us what they were and were not going to lock behind a fantasia I suspect we won't hear any news for several weeks, if ever.

[Vahlnir]

Be prepared to have this transcript pasted several times instead of having any proper answers. Infuriating but considering how long it took for them to tell us what they were and were not going to lock behind a fantasia I suspect we won't hear any news for several weeks, if ever.

I don't blame the community rep for any of this. He was probably just doing what they told him to. That's why I was (well, in my opinion) fairly polite in my response. It accomplishes nothing by "shooting the messenger".

[Denji]

I don't blame the community rep for any of this. He was probably just doing what they told him to. That's why I was (well, in my opinion) fairly polite in my response. It accomplishes nothing by "shooting the messenger".

Aye, no. I agree. Better than Blizzard where the CEO releasing memos he wrote under the name of someone else in the company.

That said, I see no reason to be gentle with my critique right now. If they were kind to us when these issues were first brought up I might've been willing but the length of time they took only to hastily change the patch notes last minute like that? Really? So not only do Hrothgar not deserve development time they don't even deserve a response or clarification?

[Arkfrost]

Its just show how lazy they are, adding half finished races and complaining that we want them to finish their work.

I don't think it's specifically "laziness", but simply the fact that they don't give a damn about Hrothgar players' wishes (and Viera likewise).
They rather spend 80% of their budget and dev time on creating the MSQ with fancy, extensive animations of Y'shtola having a book fall on her head or G'Raha's ears wiggling every other cutscene, than to take 2 weeks of dev time and focus 100% on fixing the mess that are Viera who can't wear hats & helmets + are lacking most unlockable hairstyles (both things that modders could do in a matter of hours; and keep in mind that those modders work alone, not with a big team) and Hrothgar with their garbo hairstyles, the lacking ears and the absolutely ridiculous decision that they cannot change their hairstyle at the aesthetician, but their unnecessary fur pattern you never see whenever you wear armor anyway can be changed there (it should be vice versa).

[Denji]

I don't think it's specifically "laziness", but simply the fact that they don't give a damn about Hrothgar players' wishes (and Viera likewise).
They rather spend 80% of their budget and dev time on creating the MSQ with fancy, extensive animations of Y'shtola having a book fall on her head or G'Raha's ears wiggling every other cutscene, than to take 2 weeks of dev time and focus 100% on fixing the mess that are Viera who can't wear hats & helmets + are lacking most unlockable hairstyles (both things that modders could do in a matter of hours; and keep in mind that those modders work alone, not with a big team) and Hrothgar with their garbo hairstyles, the lacking ears and the absolutely ridiculous decision that they cannot change their hairstyle at the aesthetician, but their unnecessary fur pattern you never see whenever you wear armor anyway can be changed there (it should be vice versa).

"Haha we made another msq joke where we poke fun about the fact that the player character only ever smiles and nods! What's a Hrothgar?"

[Arkfrost]

"Haha we made another msq joke where we poke fun about the fact that the player character only ever smiles and nods! What's a Hrothgar?"

Exactly this. And this is pretty sad.

But seriously, if modders can do this stuff way better than they could couldn't they have asked/compensated the modders for their work and just implemented the mod into the base game?

It's not like doing that is unheard of.

Excuse me??? Of course this is absolutely unheard of for a Japanese company! A modder simply cannot do what a multi billion dollar company's dev team can do. If they accepted the work modders have already done, that would mean that they ADMIT that modders can do stuff better than them. Absolutely unthinkable! The devs also have honor and pride in their craft! ... What do you say? ... Excessive pride was the reason why 1.0 failed? What?? No, that can't be true.