More Samurai Feedback, after playing

[silentwindfr]

i feel the removal of kaiten is more because let's face it, it was bland in terms of gameplay, yes you had to manage the kenki but at the end it was just you press another button before launch your midare/ogi. and i feel they did wanted to make place for more kenki skill since adding more gcd skill for the samurai feel difficult right now.
however, i feel they did goes wrong with the feeling of the jobs in terms of damage and impact of the midare/ogi, without forget the huge nerf of tenka goken.

i admit the idea to make ikishoten become ogi... since day one of endwalker i did feel weird it was not there from the get go.
the idea to make shinten and kyuten becoming seinen and guren when you use ikishoten is an incredible idea! and need to become a thing.

but i'm against the loose of shoha 2 since the two are skill that have 2 different role... one is for mono target and actually hit really hard with the nerf of midare. and the other one is for group fight.

more than the loose of kaiten... i feel they need to work on more synergy between gcd and ogcd skill. the pvp rework of the sam is insane for this between the chiten/zantetsuten synergy or even the charge + combo synergy i feel it goes in the right direction.
i have always regret the loose of skill to use after third eyes and now... on one side i'm happy they did remove kaiten because it can open for room for kenki usage and at the same time i feel conflicted with how the whole sam feel right now.

[butchersblock]

i feel the removal of kaiten is more because let's face it, it was bland in terms of gameplay, yes you had to manage the kenki but at the end it was just you press another button

What do you mean let's face it? You're clearly in the very small minority here among SAM players. You can be reductionist and consider anything "just another button." Going by your logic you could just remove Shinten, add its damage to other GCDs in some vague hope that they will introduce something better in some distant future after Shinten is gone.

[silentwindfr]

What do you mean let's face it? You're clearly in the very small minority here among SAM players. You can be reductionist and consider anything "just another button." Going by your logic you could just remove Shinten, add its damage to other GCDs in some vague hope that they will introduce something better in some distant future after Shinten is gone.

i means by this that the effect was good, but the gameplay level was 0 i means if you had added the potency boost of kaiten to midare en ogi without add the auto crit... we will have the same result. my problem with kaiten it's outside give a buff for the next skill it was all it was doing... for make it simple... kaiten was here for articially add gameplay to the sam.
we can argue that ikishoten do something similar but in the end it give us kenki to use too while giving access to ogi.
we can talk of meikyo that give us the capacity to gain sen directly, but at the same time now allows us to get the buff without need to redo the combo.

and kaiten was just adding +50% potency to the next weapon skill... ok nothing more? it was not different of the original dark art of the dark knight.... a redundant action. i'm for the removal of kaiten.... IF it bring more meaningfull action from the kenki to the samurai. what is not the case right now, but can be on the long terms and i said CAN BE!

i'm pragmatic and realitist i know they will try to dumb down the jobs we can't escape this fate... and why? because controller. they have a limited number of button and with the add of new skill with each expansion they need to think at this. do i approve... no! do i can change this reality? no! no one can.

and even if they decide to bring back kaiten... they need to make it more interesting than just buff the next weaponskill...