New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Synzin]

Dear Yoshi P,

I was one of the original 1.0 BETA testers. I posted a lengthy report on the BETA forums about what needed to be fixed before release and I was not just ignored but attacked over it. When you took over you made exactly the same changes I listed so I hope you will listen to me on this.

This is what needs to happen to the hairstyles for hrothgar:
1) Release hairstyles that are fit specifically for each head type. As of 6.0 there were two hairstyles per head type with some options. Instead of selecting head 1 type A or B to get the hair it should be head 1 hairstyle A, B, C, etc.

2) Make certain the quality for each hairstyle release is high. The hrothgar community will appreciate quality over quantity. The hairstyles should not remove the ears, or clip the muzzle or forehead. They should each have a styling option and good dye and highlight options. We do not need every hairstyle in the game, just some additional options. Releasing certain hairstyles for certain head types is perfectly fine.

3) Change the beautician to allow us to change out hair, styling options and facial features such as fang length, mustache and beard options within each head type. I know your marketing team is concerned with retaining value for the fantasia potion so while we would like to be able to change head type as well we will understand if that is not possible.

Thank you for your time and I appreciate everything you do for the community.

Kind Regards,
Synzin

[Denji]

Too late, there are too many non-JP players on Tonberry to prevent that.

Meant the JP general forums. Not in-game.

[Starshower]

So wait, with the comments that were posted, they ARENT going to do anymore updated hairs? Just so I know..for sure? I mean, besides the earless ones that we get now and might get in the future

He didn't say that. Basically now with our feedback they'll decide in one of 2 things: Release more earless haristyles in bulk, each patch, to have parity with the other races (which will be faster) or release fewer hairstyles with ears made for hrothgars (which will take longer).


So if you guys really want more hairs with ears made for hroth, don't complain if we don't get wind caller and such hairstyles.

[vartrashadowbane]

aaah ok. Thank you for the quick response Starshower. As I rather like my ears, I might continue with the thought ive been toying with-turning into a giraffe lol.

[SamSmoot]

Do we still have the original styles, with ears?

[vartrashadowbane]

Yes. I just got irrationally excited for new haircuts and the profound disappointment after this long has sent me spiraling back to my lord of the ring days, so now I am elf.

[DynnDiablos]

It’s crazy the choice is one or the other. Like give more hair options for each head. This is just crazy to me.

[Seafishie]

I think most Hrothbros would agree that getting the bestial hairstyles, despite it taking longer for them to implement, would be the better solution. That said, I dread at the thought of having to wait until they decide to work on them again in the inconceivable future. We just can't win.

[Denji]

Do we still have the original styles, with ears?

Aye. They've also (supposedly) have made it so more of the facial features are interchangeable between, well, faces but I would hold off on getting excited for that until it can be truly confirmed.

That said, they have stated that they moved some fantasia-only options to the aesthetician. This was not in the preliminary notes, indicating it was a last-minute change as can be seen here: https://www.diffchecker.com/qqdgOvGk ( https://i.imgur.com/WkiFzjn.png )

How much exactly was going to require a fanta is unknown. So it could've been the new hairstyles or it could've been just the facial features. We don't know.

[reivaxe]

So if they're like "this is really hard to make" why did they recant on the statement of Hrothgar getting racial specific hairstyles then? Same goes for viera? Like...you released new hairs almost ever major patch while v/h were still begging for hairstyles to actually make our characters look unique from one another :/
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Like I said many a time on these OFs, what they said back then was under the notion that they would not make the other genders and stay the course. It took until around 6 months post ShB release for the team to find all the corners they could cut to present their case for how they would be able to take on making Male Viera and Female Hrothgar come about. THAT'S a pretty major thing, and it always blew my mind that people would simply never expect some downside to them adding new genders and races. How many hairstyles could they have made if they didn't make Male Viera?

Hrothgar were supposed to be CC hair head locked having dudes who would get new faces at some point so that they could do the whole beast man thing, Viera were supposed to have their own unique hair instead of shared hair. It's 100% possible that they felt that they could make some new Viera hair and some new Hroth faces and carry on doing business as usual. But doing unique hair for Female Viera and unique hair for Male Viera and unique new heads for both Male and Female Hrothgar AND hearing people who play BOTH these races b-n-m from the start or ShB about not getting shared hair AND having to pay $10 to just change their hair AS they still make shared hair for normal races at a Snell's pace?

Yeah, that might be seen as too much, and it would logically make more sense to make shared hair work on these races that keep asking for it now that they have 2 sexes and will likely get 2X the request for it.
Like, I even get where YP is coming from. The ears thing doesn't bother me at all, as someone who wants to play female Hrothgar (provided they look good to me) I'm happy to see that they want Hrothgar to get shared hair because I get to keep my fav styles and I get to look forward to content rewards. That was always the argument for why they should give these races shared hair ... sadly Female Hrothgar aren't in the game yet so all you see is Hrothgar getting mix gendered hairs without their being people out there with female characters who can go "yay, 2B hair!" and offer their feedback.

At the VERY LEAST, I hope they build Female Hrothgar in a manner where this isn't a problem. Because they will absolutely see a wave of bitching if female Hrothgar can't get shared hair beyond the 6 they give to male Hrothgar today or w/e when they finally come out.