Ninja nerfed?

[Manofpassion]

Why do you think these changes were made? I was a Monk, and my job was gutted between 5.4 and 6.0.. I can't help but look around at these NIN and SAM changes and wonder if these jobs are next.

I regret spending much of shb laughing at monk now. First they came for the monks, now they come for the nins. I should have stood up for the monks, and now we will suffer

[Grimoire-M]

I regret spending much of shb laughing at monk now. First they came for the monks, now they come for the nins. I should have stood up for the monks, and now we will suffer

First they came for the healers...

[Manofpassion]

I'm def gonna try to lend my voice to the drgs and astro now lmao, they're gonna get their reckoning in 6.2

It sucks this happened to nins, but the drgs and astros deserve to be happy

[wereotter]

I regret spending much of shb laughing at monk now. First they came for the monks, now they come for the nins. I should have stood up for the monks, and now we will suffer

Funny thing there.... ninja and monk are now basically the same job, except ninja gets more to do to keep it interesting.

riddle of fire = trick attack
mug = brotherhood
ninjutsu = masterful blitz

only real thing that's different is ninja gets different GCD attacks and more predictible OGC while monk has.... forbidden chakra? mantra?

[Manofpassion]

Oh yeah, we know lmao. In the other ninja threads someone coined the term brothermug and riddle of trick, which I am sad to say these changes prove.

Some ninja players were really happy at being brought up and being made more similar to monk though, which was interesting. They never did answer why they didn't just play monk instead of advocating for these changes.

Whether new nin will be a better or worse version of monk we have yet to know. If ninja just outright does less dps than monk, monk will have higher dps and mantra, which will make us kind of obsolete compared to old nin. I think its likely new nin will be worse than monk given its the ninja devs. But if nins do more dps than monks, then monks just get a raw deal. Mantra is nice, but it's not needed for most if not all fights, so superior dps will generally speaking be more desired. Either way, one of these two jobs is gonna lose out.

When I first saw the monk rework, i found it strange monk was given what is basically shitty mudras for their new nadi system. I was expecting monk to steal more things from ninja, not the other way around lmao. I hate monk, but I guess the devs insist more people must play it.