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    Elodie Claire
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100

    I would give anything to have job design in PvE be anything like the new PvP kits.

    First off, PvP job designers: good job The entire XIV scene seems highly impressed by this stuff.

    No, excellent job, a full selection of unique jobs with unique mechanics and they're all positively dripping with their Final Fantasy identity. Amazing personal Limit Breaks too, which I also would die for in PvE! The Dragoon one makes me especially happy seeing that we've asked it since ARR.

    If you have not seen it yet, I strongly suggest giving it a glance, just reading through these gave me a bigger jolt than anything else new in Endwalker: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/pvp/

    I'd be fully willing to trade anything we have locking us down in PvE from having brilliance like that, our role systems is held together by low grade fishing line anyway. I would probably never unsub if we had PvE kits anything like that.

    This is the first time I've been interested in MMO PvP in years, simply because of how inspired these redesigned jobs are. The mode and maps look great too.

    PvE team please just take notes, or befriend the PvP team or ... something.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Yes same here, I wasnt expecting something like this with the PvP rework. I just used to stick to one main pvp class based on how easier it is to play (mostly ranged classes really) but now that every class feels unique and each one brings SOMETHING different to the table, I'm excited to just try all of my jobs now. Please SE, use this same design for PvE job skills. We arent asking for complex rotations or more buttons, we're only asking that our jobs still feel unique and fun to play that is all.
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    Rinh Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I hope this is sarcasm. I would literally quit the game if pve ever plays like the pvp combo crap.
    I think the praise was more to do with the fact that each job in pvp now has it's own unique abilities and flare to it and not just carbon copies of each other with different animations as it is in pve right now.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I hope this is sarcasm. I would literally quit the game if pve ever plays like the pvp combo crap.
    Not necessarily the one button combo thing. Lets not get ourselves too crazy. I dont mind it in pvp because of its nature, but we're more so wanting that they take their pvp job design document to apply to better bring more class identity to our current jobs rather than just the homogenization we've been getting over the years.
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    But they are still not comparable. They are awesome in PvP context, but not like they would ever translate to PvE in any way.
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    WHM got a Frog spell almost!

    The icon shows an imp/piggy, I would've preferred it just be Frog. But still!
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Sage Lv 100
    PvP looks like it will be fun, I hope it turns out to be popular and pushes people to try an aspect of the game that is very much unknown and often denigrated.

    And depending on the feedback I'd like for them to implement some of the better aspects of the new skills and systems to an otherwise ever increasing homogenized PvE gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayche View Post
    But they are still not comparable. They are awesome in PvP context, but not like they would ever translate to PvE in any way.
    Yes that's the whole idea though. Were not saying just straight up copy the PvP skills straight into PvE. That wouldnt make sense for PvE's combat. What were saying is to take inspiration from the reworked pvp job design into pve jobs. Give our classes more of a unique identity rather than stripping away core parts of what made some classes fun to use.
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yes that's the whole idea though. Were not saying just straight up copy the PvP skills straight into PvE. That wouldnt make sense for PvE's combat. What were saying is to take inspiration from the reworked pvp job design into pve jobs. Give our classes more of a unique identity rather than stripping away core parts of what made some classes fun to use.
    What bits and pieces would you adopt?
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    Raim Surion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Some of these new PvP skills are pure SOUL. They need to get those guys working on some PvE skills.
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