New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[ArtyTheHrothgar]

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Well on this, I think it is important to touch on this part and provide an explanation.

Well, this time we added hairstyles for Hrothgar, and I do want to make a mention on Hrothgar's specification one more time and talk on this. You see, Hrothgar's head part is actually and completely exclusive. Because of that we can achieve that kind of quality and realise the features of Hrothgar along with their hairstyle. Because of this speciality of theirs, Hrothgars originally cannot have hairstyles added...and that was what I mentioned at the start but since then we receive comments like "I want hairstyles to be added" so we tried to accommodate that and we did added it in, but with the condition where the ears are hidden "within the hairstyles" while maintaining the structure of their head. If that's the case, we thought we can gradually start adding hairstyles on them and that was the plan, but now we received a lot of voices saying that it somehow became weird that they don't have ears....

Hmm...well this is something that we're struggling here, currently. Well if this is about an update to XIV...of course this is going to be compared somewhat but even as I say that, we did indeed try to accommodate by adjusting the hairstyle to match the head shape and whatnot but if what we get here was "no this wasn't what we meant" each passing day, then we do have to step back and rethink....well, this will cause the frequency of (hairstyle) addition to drop, but maybe we can create specialized Hrothgar hairstyle that match their head shape? Though this will come in very limited numbers...ummmmmmm....

I mean we indeed made it clear and because we did that we knew just how hard creating Hrothgar is. Creating hairs and furs for Hrothgar is honestly really hard...no joke. ......Hmmm, what should we do...Right, it is indeed troubling...Well even if you tell us to hurry up and find a solution we can't do that because it indeed takes time for us to. So I would appreciate it if you can send us your feedback to the official forums so that we can look into it. The people in the community team will gather and round up the feedback and report to the team. Once again, I want people to understand that the head shape of Hrothgar is really unique and specially made here, and we created and implement them this way thinking the Furries will be happy with this, so I'll be happy if please can understand that it's done completely different from other races in the game.

It seems that the issue will take a lot of time to be fixed.

[Vahlnir]

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It seems that the issue will take a lot of time to be fixed.

They had 3+ years to do something substantial for Hrothgar. I'd argue that 6 months was too long.

[Denji]

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It seems that the issue will take a lot of time to be fixed.

If it takes a furry less than two weeks to make an entire anthropomorphic fox with hair in SL or VRchat during their off-hours then square has no excuses for it taking 3+ years only to give us /2b's frickin' wig without ears/.

They have record profits. They can hire the people. They have had more than enough time and not only that but they were the ones who introduced hrothgar and then made no plans on how to improve them after 36 months.

My brother in Christ square, you introduced the Hrothgar. This isn't "oh it's hard". This is incompetence.

[Lauront]

Billion yen, maybe.

If you measure it by market cap, you could say dollars.

FFXIV (2.0) is the game that dragged SE out of the mud and saved it from destined bankruptcy literally. And the overwhelming credits for that go to Yoshi P. clearly, which explains also why they let him rise so fast in the company ranks up to the position he is in at the moment.

But yeah, the big reason for XIV getting more casual and tries to appeal to more and more audiences is probably cause shareholders like when stuff grows and XIV showed extreme potential.

If you want to observe this btw you can google for the Square Enix stock and look at how the graph goes up and down on different dates. And then look up when expansions hit and XIV patches and keep in mind that this isn't the XIV stock but the whole big japanese gaming company. XIV has a huge gigantic influence on the stock.

Yeah, you can see its contribution here, if you flip to page 9. It groups the operating income over 3 subcategories but I'd be interested to see if that's broken down by subcategory somewhere else; either way, they're attributing the rise in operating income within this category primarily to XIV. My guess would be XIV is outdoing the other subcategories in terms of operating income in relation to its share of sales revenue.

[Akimori]

So if they're like "this is really hard to make" why did they recant on the statement of Hrothgar getting racial specific hairstyles then? Same goes for viera? Like...you released new hairs almost ever major patch while v/h were still begging for hairstyles to actually make our characters look unique from one another :/

3 years to get it together and you still couldn't do that......these are just riddled with excuses like....ugh. yes, I'm glad we got new hairs, but not happy at it with the cost of my ears :T. It also doesn't look like this was something that was well thought out anyway is the problem. It looks like it was all haphazardly thrown together....

[Denji]

So if they're like "this is really hard to make" why did they recant on the statement of Hrothgar getting racial specific hairstyles then? Same goes for viera? Like...you released new hairs almost ever major patch while v/h were still begging for hairstyles to actually make our characters look unique from one another :/

3 years to get it together and you still couldn't do that......these are just riddled with excuses like....ugh. yes, I'm glad we got new hairs, but not happy at it with the cost of my ears :T. It also doesn't look like this was something that was well thought out anyway is the problem. It looks like it was all haphazardly thrown together....

It's called "saving face".

[Belauron]

I'm still waiting to see if they have even unlocked the hair from the faces.

As no where does it say it has.

I'm expecting that the only options that willl be available from the aesthetician are the wigs and then the bangs and sideburns which come with said hair styles.

Even the facial features image was that of the character creation.

[Theodric]

Here's hoping that when they're upgrading the character model textures they're actually rebuilding the entire system from the ground up so that they can add further customisation features more easily in the future...

It's a bit too late now, though they really should have not bothered adding any new playable races until they had implemented a more streamlined process. It's poor form to complain about 'extra work' when they frequently embrace inefficient methods of development.

I also wonder where they're getting their feedback if they believe a sizeable number of players wanted the 2B hairstyle available for male characters. Far more people have spoken out over the years in favour of more masculine looking hairstyles for male characters.

Maybe it's time for Yoshi-P to ditch his female lalafell and female raen and be forced to play a male character for a while. He kept saying he wanted to see Hrothgar added because a bestial playable race was a desire of his - so why isn't he playing one?

[Yencat]

So if they're like "this is really hard to make" why did they recant on the statement of Hrothgar getting racial specific hairstyles then? Same goes for viera? Like...you released new hairs almost ever major patch while v/h were still begging for hairstyles to actually make our characters look unique from one another :/

That's kind of where he lost me.

He's saying he made it clear from the start they couldn't add any at all, but we have the official LL translation saying they would and every now and then (like during the art of Shadowbringers stream) they'd come out and say it'd be a while longer?

So which is it?

[Skyborne]

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It seems that the issue will take a lot of time to be fixed.

Noticing a lack of any sort of apology for basically yanking Hrothgar players around for three years, just the standard 'please understand, we have coded ourselves into a corner'.