FF14 Becoming More "Solo Friendly" is bad, Maybe

[Serious-Cat]

I think this guy really covers well a lot of my concerns of the over all game. It goes over, the lack of content, single player focus, ect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwYqkuju_Fc

I personally felt that the content is sufficient for those with limited amount of time to play games or playing several games at a time. I've been rushing from ARR to EW so I can do the upcoming 6.1 stuff and it made me realize I rush thru 10 years content in 10 days :/ but filling the content gap with community made content will work for those that play this game full time

[IdowhatIwant]

I personally felt that the content is sufficient for those with limited amount of time to play games or playing several games at a time. I've been rushing from ARR to EW so I can do the upcoming 6.1 stuff and it made me realize I rush thru 10 years content in 10 days :/ but filling the content gap with community made content will work for those that play this game full time

See when you just join the game in EW and tell me that, I can't really take your opinion with much merit. I envy how much content you have to do, where I have played this for a decade. The new patch will be a day or two of new content, outside of the gated weekly lock out for the 24man or if I want to climb pvp ranks after that I will be back to nothing to really do in the game again. Now I know what people are going to say Yoshi P says to take breaks. At the same time, is it a good sign that I want to play the game, but I am taking a break because there is nothing in it for me to do? Should I come back from a break play the game two days only to go back to a break because the lack of content longevity? How is that healthy for the game? Don't come at me with the just cause the content isn't for you doesn't mean it isn't content either, cause that's just a childish excuse no brainer excuse you can make about any piece of content. Who defends a game having less content it just blows my mind people will defend this. Not saying you did but just in general this community is just so mind blowingly shallow.

The game needs a better focal point, and I don't think a solo friendly experience is needed at this time. Again, I don't really care that it is being added, I think many players will like it. The reasons for adding I think are for the wrong reasons and are not going to work the way SE is hoping. It is also a huge amount of work, and money to make this work during a time where this game has hit a huge peak in player count where those resources could be allocated to more content. I also really don't like the direction the game play is taking and I only feel these changes are happening to make the game feel more solo friendly and that is a problem. SE should not detract the current game play for the current players for a group of players that likely are not going to jump ship onto this game. Most of this game is already very solo friendly as is in its current iteration so this all just feels unnecessary to focus on at this time.

By all means, I would love people to give me 3 reasons why this game as far along as it is should not be getting more content. (Budget does not count, cause I can blame that on Yoshi P not allocating the funds correctly so I don't wanna hear that BS)

[Fubous]

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sounds like you are just burnt out on the game. there's a great amount of content on it's way imo, if you've done literally everything that interests you and you're bored, that's not really the game's fault lol. clearly the advice to take breaks is healthy for the game because it's doing great by every metric, better than it ever has. and it is sound advice. I got tired of the stale combat, took a month off to play other games, came back and it's fun to play again. as for solo play, the trust system is already developed so reworking old content, which needed some tlc anyways, realistically wouldn't take as much dev time as you're assuming.

[IdowhatIwant]

sounds like you are just burnt out on the game. there's a great amount of content on it's way imo, if you've done literally everything that interests you and you're bored, that's not really the game's fault lol. clearly the advice to take breaks is healthy for the game because it's doing great by every metric, better than it ever has. and it is sound advice. I got tired of the stale combat, took a month off to play other games, came back and it's fun to play again. as for solo play, the trust system is already developed so reworking old content, which needed some tlc anyways, realistically wouldn't take as much dev time as you're assuming.

Not burnt out, tired of getting burnt. And No there is not a great amount of content on it's way. It's the same amount of content as patches 4.1, 4.3, 4.5, 5.1, 5.3, and 5.5 and will likely be about the same amount as 6.3 and 6.5. I will bet my house, my car, and a ps5 that the new dungeon is going to be 3 trash pulls we do wall to wall then a boss fight x3. So why you going to lie to my like this, I've seen these patches for a decade I know what's going to be in each one.

[Serious-Cat]

See when you just join the game in EW and tell me that, I can't really take your opinion with much merit. I envy how much content you have to do, where I have played this for a decade. The new patch will be a day or two of new content, outside of the gated weekly lock out for the 24man or if I want to climb pvp ranks after that I will be back to nothing to really do in the game again.

Its okay if you don't like or agree with my opinion xD but it really doesn't change the fact that I pretty much have became you, in the sense of "there's nothing much to do rn except wait because I done it all" If I did not take all my leave to play FF14 from ARR till EW, I would have probably enjoyed FF14 more and for longer too. I literally just finished that tasty and expensive block of cheese and now I don't have nothing good to eat no more.

Now I know what people are going to say Yoshi P says to take breaks. At the same time, is it a good sign that I want to play the game, but I am taking a break because there is nothing in it for me to do? Should I come back from a break play the game two days only to go back to a break because the lack of content longevity? How is that healthy for the game?

In the case for my short experience so far, if I were to pace my play I would have gotten more value from the enjoyment I should be getting when playing a game. In the context of Yoshi P saying its ok to take breaks, I'm sure its just the Japanese way of being polite that they can only put out that much content humanly possible. Using Bozja as an example, my bro told me I could get it all done in 3 days tops in the context of me utilizing my work leave however when I tried to break it down to my normal routine, would prolly take me a month or so :/

Another point of view is that in relation of entertainment sources and its value, a 90 minute movie takes maybe 4 years to produce and costs $15 where I live. The 2 year FF14 content costs me $13 for 30 days of play and looking at the quarterly content release cycle, I'd only need to sub for 6 months max to play the entirety of endwalker and its expansions since I'm never keeping up with the Jones on content while Lost Ark cost only time. I'd prolly be grinding in Lost Ark for 2 years for ungodly hours everyday to hit endgame as a free player.

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[hagare]

I personally felt that the content is sufficient for those with limited amount of time to play games or playing several games at a time. I've been rushing from ARR to EW so I can do the upcoming 6.1 stuff and it made me realize I rush thru 10 years content in 10 days :/ but filling the content gap with community made content will work for those that play this game full time

slow down.
You're gonna hurt yourself.
Enjoy the experience.
Take in the sights.
The journey is as good as the goal.

[Serious-Cat]

slow down.
You're gonna hurt yourself.
Enjoy the experience.
Take in the sights.
The journey is as good as the goal.

That is true! I regret approaching the game initially to just "defeat" it with the goal I can beat the game before my leave ends and now I am the same with people that complaints there's nothing to do in game except wait for 6.1 xD

[hagare]

That is true! I regret approaching the game initially to just "defeat" it with the goal I can beat the game before my leave ends and now I am the same with people that complaints there's nothing to do in game except wait for 6.1 xD

just like how people have said. It's okay to play other games when you're bored.
It'll be here when you come back.
*looking at my backlog*
yeah.... I should probably do that too.

Well we know the reason why tho although I believe nothing really essential was taken away from the old ways since the button condensation is just to make room for more skills as the game code allows xD Mathematically, pressing 1-2-3 or 1-1-1 still takes the same amount of effort and repetition tho. 1 to = is 12 buttons but if 3 actions are condensed each, that's a whopping 36 button potential which would be important to maximize high end duties clears but to the average solo player for the story only where pressing 1 to = is sufficient shouldn't have bothered anyone really. Everyone wins actually? xD

the amount of objections in the other thread shows otherwise.
Even though doing it this way won't change rotations. Won't change APM. Only the placements.
Hell, it might even have saved kaiten xD

But eh. SE's gonna streamline anyway.

[Serious-Cat]

just like how people have said. It's okay to play other games when you're bored.
It'll be here when you come back.
*looking at my backlog*
yeah.... I should probably do that too.

IM GUILTY. Part of me is nooooooo 24 hour maintainence and part of me is like phew its finally time to play warhammer3 that I preordered a few months ago xD