Give OCE players a free transfer off their dead datacenter.

[Jojoya]

We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

You're the first one I've seen mention marketboard problems in this thread (though I've seen the complaint elsewhere, and might have missed someone else's comments in this one).

I was addressing those complaining about the duty queues.

isn't DF across servers? So the same thing would happen regardless with multiple servers?

Right, that's what I was saying. The number of worlds isn't impacting duty queues. It would severely affect log in queues.

Having the population spread out between multiple worlds and data centers allows more players to log in at the same time. We know it's not solely at the logical data center level (though that's also a factor). At the start of the expansion Balmung players were facing multi-hour log in queues even though log in queues for Coeurl were rarely more than 5 minutes and we're on the same logical data center.

I had a look at those bots and it seems non of them are past level 50. They wont be able to buy in Shirogane or in Ishgard.

They're still a massive issue, of course, but they're not worth staying on a dead server for

Does the quest requirement also apply to purchase of FC houses in those districts, or just personal houses/apartments? Considering the difference in purchase requirements between FC and personal, I'm not sure the quest would be needed for a FC house entry.

If the quest completion isn't needed, then it simply takes one high level RMT character buying an apartment in one of those districts then friending low level RMT characters so all those low level characters have access to at least that one ward.

[Tigerlilley]

If the quest completion isn't needed, then it simply takes one high level RMT character buying an apartment in one of those districts then friending low level RMT characters so all those low level characters have access to at least that one ward.

Your character needs to physically get to the placard to click on it. If you haven't finished 3.0 HW story, you can't get to Empyrean. If you haven't cleared through to Kugane, you cannot physically get to Shirogane.

So sure, maybe the apartment thing would work but im unsure they'll go to this much effort.

[Johners]

We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

To be fair, that's just a poorly designed market board system. I play on Light which is active but you can just jump between servers to buy stuff that's cheaper elsewhere within your data centre. The obvious solution here would be a redesigned market board that's one giant market for all home worlds within a data centre. That way I can just buy/sell DC-wide and for people in less populated servers, they're fundamentally not missing out on anything.

[Tigerlilley]

Theres just barely anyone at end game so stuff like food, pots, gear - it just doesn't sell. It was the final nail in the coffin for our community who reaaaally don't want to be late to the housing market but no amount of copium can trick them into thinking its viable to stay on a server like Bismarck. They're ready to leave as soon as possible.

As community leaders, we have a lot of regrets. We should have encouraged people to chill and just see how the population would go before picking which server to move to. Its just everyone was so excited. We should have deffinately waited to see if SE was going to open cross region - honestly a lot of people thought they would. Then Live Letter after Live Letter went past and just zero mention of us while they discussed opening datacentre travel for NA, EU and JP.

I gave up on my alt over there because I got sick of bouncing around Limsa's on each world begging people to join my PF so I could clear story instances, because that sure as sh wasn't happening in duty finder. Miserable experience. I know a lot of people regret moving their mains so fast, especially the ones that gave up housing to do it.

We're finding that the Kiwi's who have 9 to 5s are having to stay up later than they'd like to get any queues because nothing pops outside of Australian peak times. Want to play during the day? Forget it, theres no one there. Unlike EU and NA who are a melting pot of different times zones with substantially bigger populations, you have about 2 hours a night on OCE to get anything done.

Many regrets. I just feel sad for everyone tbh.

I didn't even realise that SEA players couldn't choose their countries when making an account. Is it possible that is why SE got these metrics so wrong?

I know they don't usually take feedback from the English forums and I know I'm just whining into thin air here. Just yeah, lots of regrets. Feel bad for my community.

[Johners]

I appreciate the server situation is a bit poor but at the same time, the servers did launch between the patch/content cycles so at least wait until after patch day to truly comment on it? It does seem rather bad, in a way, that the release of housing has taken this long on an entirely fresh data centre but at least that gave people starting new characters or the game entirely time to level up and be in a position to try and buy a house. At the same time, I don't necessarily think having an influx of OCE players back onto NA/EU/JP servers is a good idea. You've been provided with your own servers, if a little late, in the same way other MMOs have and I think there's a duty amongst that community to make them work because it's the very genre of the game.

[Duskane]

it is very late into the tier
potions,food and crafted gear plummets in desirability and only the first two will get a bit of a spike once Ultimate is out

[LaylaTsarra]

SE will make necessary adjustments. I'm not going anywhere. I have story done with two roles at 90 and others at 87/87/88/88. I'm looking to get a FC house and expect the DC to grow over time. If it doesn't they'll certainly have to address the DC travel issue and sooner than later.

I didn't move my main over I transferred a low level alt and story/role skilled her WHM. If I had I'm not be a happy camper.

[Jojoya]

Your character needs to physically get to the placard to click on it. If you haven't finished 3.0 HW story, you can't get to Empyrean. If you haven't cleared through to Kugane, you cannot physically get to Shirogane.

So sure, maybe the apartment thing would work but im unsure they'll go to this much effort.

You can get to the placard if there is someone on your friends list with an estate (whether house or apartment) in the ward and Estate Teleportation enabled. I was running around Shirogane on newly created character because I had friends with houses there. I could only be in the wards where their houses were located, and couldn't talk to the ferryman to get to Kugane but certainly I had access to all the placards in those wards.

I'm certain Empyreum will be the same thing. SE wants friends to be able to visit housing owned by friends. So high level RMT characters buy up apartments, each one in a different ward marked for FC purchase. They add 200 low level RMT characters to their friends list and enable Estate Teleportation for the apartments. All those low level RMT characters can now get to placards.

Will RMT go to the effort? Of course RMT will go to the effort. Effort is what makes money.

To be fair, that's just a poorly designed market board system. I play on Light which is active but you can just jump between servers to buy stuff that's cheaper elsewhere within your data centre. The obvious solution here would be a redesigned market board that's one giant market for all home worlds within a data centre. That way I can just buy/sell DC-wide and for people in less populated servers, they're fundamentally not missing out on anything.

That was SE's original intent when they were working on adding world visit but they ran into technical issues. I think it's still something they want to accomplish but there's no way of knowing when they'll be able to get past those hurdles.

Theres just barely anyone at end game so stuff like food, pots, gear - it just doesn't sell. It was the final nail in the coffin for our community who reaaaally don't want to be late to the housing market but no amount of copium can trick them into thinking its viable to stay on a server like Bismarck. They're ready to leave as soon as possible.

Well, there's your problem. You're focusing on items that have a very small market at best for your data center. You should be selling the items that leveling players can use, not items that Savage raiders want.

[Lily_Skye]

and people still asking for a south american datacenter lmao no ty

[Dzian]

But you all asked for OCE data center, so now why you complained it's dead? Clearly you should know how much people gonna play there...

Probably not. Because everyone thinks the game is a hundred times more popular than it really is.

Like the current ad in Facebook join over 25 million players in eorzea.. LOL...

What they need though is cross data centre world visits. Which they said they were doing this expansion.. as an English player on aether. Sometimes on days off the queues can be long. So be nice to hop over to ragnarok during more euro friendly hours. And then back to aether where all my friends and connections are.