More unneccesary nerfs to older content

[TaleraRistain]

Would be muuuuuuch more worth interacting with those if it did not stink so much. Spam spam spam away at numpad 0 until it registers the click then the attack goes off anyway because I activated it "too late". Then you realize that one single whispering dawn and the fairy can heal that entire fight so you greed uptime instead. Actually anything involving cannons is so fricken wonky for reasons mysterious.

Makes the alterations even more of the confusing. Just watched family member blast through Vigil first time on Scholar, did not even need to clense burns from first boss because the fairy took care of everything. Pulled the entire first hallway to the boss door and obliterated the pull after one wipe. Yes I mean everything. The first hallway, all the dargons in the adjacent room alllllll the way to the Swinge boss.

Fairy has pretty much always been that OP all the way back to ARR, though. AFK scholars who went on /follow letting the fairy heal was a common thing. And yeah, the cannon mechanic was also flaky. So it's not really teaching much except how to hate something in the game for not reacting when you interact with it.

Not related to the quote, but going back to perma death. I think many in this thread don't realize Titan got nerfed years ago. You used to have to stare at the floor when you slid off. So you weren't even able to see the fight. A QoL went in so you could at least watch the fight, and now there's another QoL going in so teams have a chance of recovery.

[Voross]

Aren't at least some of those changes only so they can add the dungeons/trials to trust/adventurer runs later on? Would be an issue if you had to wipe after an npc fell off the edge because he couldn't be rezzed.

[Semirhage]

It's easy to be against these changes when you probably never risk queueing the content.

It was amusing when it happened on occasion, but when it happens multiple times, causing many resets, it gets tiring. I'm sure those resets will still happen, but at least now there's a better shot at completing them. It's great news for mentors that get these extremes on roulette.

For normal dungeons: "Risk". Yeah. That's hilarious. Normal mode dungeons are as close to solo/duoable as they've ever been.
For extremes: Permadeath isn't what causes this derptastic community to wipe over and over again. Shiva EX doesn't have permadeath, and I've nearly run out an instance timer teaching newbies. It's because they don't listen. They ignore mechanics. They say "eh just heal through the vulnerability stacks", because that's a preferable solution over learning anything. FFXIV doesn't encourage players to learn fights or their kits at all. It isn't punishing enough.

[TaleraRistain]

Aren't at least some of those changes only so they can add the dungeons/trials to trust/adventurer runs later on? Would be an issue if you had to wipe after an npc fell off the edge because he couldn't be rezzed.

More than likely, yes, and I think the issue is some people didn't think they would need to change the regular dungeons to do it. But roulette is roulette. I always anticipated they would need to change the base dungeon because there's only one version of it. Even with Explorer Mode, it's the same dungeon at the end with no mobs I believe, which is why people can't go back to earlier parts in dungeons that change in some manner for things like specific weather or lighting.

[Silver-Strider]

We're not asking for Dark Souls levels of difficulty (at least no sane person is). We're not asking for Sastasha to suddenly be as hard as P4S or Ifrit to suddenly go into his UWU phase at level 20.

We're asking for mechanics to be respected.
We're asking for solo content to better teach you a basic rotation so you get a better understanding of your job mechanics.
We're asking for content to respect our intelligence.

That's all

[Minarisweet]

I mean it makes sense that they are making everything easier now atleast they are being consistent, the game gives you the wrong idea in arr thinking its gonna be a proper mmo but nope, slow easy wow clone that can feel like its own thing ONLY when you do high end content.

[Lauront]

It's easy to be against these changes when you probably never risk queueing the content.

What do you mean "risk queuing" it? It's not like you're going to break a leg or something. Plus I can assure you, many of us have queued this content, sometimes many, many times.

[Minsue]

To those complaining when was the last time you sat down and went to do these duties?

yesterday night

[LittleImp]

This is a problem with many MMOs.

They start off jank but loveable, get polished to their peak state, and then continue to get polished until they are a hollow shell of what was compelling to the original playerbase. Like I said, the permadeath stuff I don't really care about, but seeing them strip iconic mechanics entirely out of fights to accommodate a tacked on single-player mode is just depressing.

[Lauront]

This is a problem with many MMOs.

They start off jank but loveable, get polished to their peak state, and then continue to get polished until they are a hollow shell of what was compelling to the original playerbase. The permadeath stuff I don't really care about, but seeing them strip iconic mechanics entirely out of fights to accommodate a tacked on single-player mode is just depressing.

Maybe this is what awaits us.

Come to think of it, they did speak of "perfecting" FF14 in one of the SHB fan fest interviews.