What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KizuyaKatogami]

She also then offered to let those same Kobolds kill her for what she did to them. I don't think the Admiral is blameless, but the game still acknowledges what she did as villainy.

If you want an expansion where we take her down for her villainy, by all means. Same with Garlemald.




Sure, there is individual gray within the Garleans, but the Garlean Empire itself is very much NOT gray. A government =/= its people. Saying that the Garlean Empire (and its military) were villains is not saying that each individual Garlean person was evil. For example, there were good people in Eulmore, but that didn't change the fact that Vauthry needed to be taken down. If Garlemald had survived and a more benevolent leader taken the throne, fine. But, even BEFORE the Telopheroi appeared, the Garlean military destroyed their own country based on its own prevalent philosophy of might makes right.

So then if a garlean came up to us and offered to be killed for the garlean empires crimes it’d make everything a-ok? What happened to two wrongs don’t make a right…. Either way this discussion is meaningless and i’d rather it not devolve into yet another long discussion that eventually leads up to some japanese morals or mythology or whatever the earlier conversation was. Regardless, in the end the devs have stated it’s grey, the garleans as a whole, people and empire. People can choose to disagree with them and hate him that is perfectly fine. But to act like and say it’s wrong for someone to like them or “romanticize” them is a bit of a reach. I feel like a lot of people forget that in the end these are all pixels. I’ve seen people think someone is mentally unwell for wanting to see certain characters die or because they supported certain sides and in the end it’s a game. I highly doubt someone who likes the garleans is just going to go around murdering people like some people seem to think.

[CrownySuccubus]

So then if a garlean came up to us and offered to be killed for the garlean empires crimes it’d make everything a-ok?

The point is that Merlwyb indicates that she regrets and wants to make amends for the wrongs she's done. To be completely honest, I think offering to kill yourself to make up for past wrongs is the coward's way out. But my point is that the game did something. The Garlean government/military were still doing the exact same thing they always did, and it ended up destroying their own country.