New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Minali]

I mean, maybe? But there's literally a unique face option that doesn't effect clipping at all. My character's mane clips through 80% of collared chest pieces anyways, so the clipping argument seems like a non issue at this point.

Also half of my Miqo'te hairstyles clip through chest pieces and head gear if they aren't super short and don't have a fringe, and Miqo'te are very very popular. And all weapons that are not worn on the back clip heavily through any sort of coat or dress. Not to mention all the mounts that are being basically cut in half whenever I wear a gown or something with a cape, no matter what species. And there are these shoulder minions that basically merge half of their head with one half of my Miqo'te's head. Saying the problem with the Hrothgar ears is clipping of all the things is just so ridiculous when you take into account what else clips badly.

[Alieno]

This is ridiculous. XIV isn't a free to play game, Square. People are paying every month, and every month we ask you to do something about this situation. It's been going for THREE YEARS and this is what you came up with? At this point I'm sure you're just making fun of us, if the giggles from Yoshida and the other guy in the LL didn't make it clear enough.

[Larirawiel]

I mean, maybe? But there's literally a unique face option that doesn't effect clipping at all. My character's mane clips through 80% of collared chest pieces anyways, so the clipping argument seems like a non issue at this point.

yeah but like half my glams my weapons and such will clip through my hoods. see: every caster robe ever, rebel coat, casual jacket, etc. even the level 50 whm robe you got back in arr clipped through canes. also when they introduced longer hairstyles for all races they were like "oh it may clip lmao".

so to suddenly care about clipping now is just absurd. like why.

It is only a speculation from my side. There can also be other reasons for this. Maybe they have set a kind of "budget" how many polygons or textures a player character can have. With the Bozja-NPC-options they would propably exceed it etc. Those "maximum value of something"-limits are not uncommon in software development. Otherwise they could run into massive performance problems or it could cause client crashes etc. And there are also consoles. They have other limits here and there and in those cases it is common to take the "least common denominator"-path.

I guess, they will lift many limits with 7.x.



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[Denji]

It is only a speculation from my side. There can also be other reasons for this. Maybe they have set a kind of "budget" how many polygons or textures a player character can have. With the Bozja-NPC-options they would propably exceed it etc. Those "maximum value of something"-limits are not uncommon in software development. Otherwise they could run into massive performance problems or it could cause client crashes etc. And there are also consoles. They have other limits here and there and in those cases it is common to take the "least common denominator"-path.

I guess, they will lift many limits with 7.x.



Cheers

I would be more willing to believe this if the game didn't already run perfectly fine for those who have broken the rules/tos and modified their client so that Hrothgar can use other hairstyles. Additionally Viera ears use way more resources.
Square doesn't need your help to make up scenarios to defend its decisions; they're perfectly capable of doing that themselves but choose not to.

[ItsVox]

I'd love to hear the rational from Square about why they feel the need to shaft the Hrothgar player base like this. I honestly feel TERRIBLE for anyone holding their breath for FemHroth, especially if the best they can do is cut our ears off and still expect us to pay rl money to try or swap to recycled hairstyles.

[GrimGale]

It is only a speculation from my side. There can also be other reasons for this. Maybe they have set a kind of "budget" how many polygons or textures a player character can have. With the Bozja-NPC-options they would propably exceed it etc. Those "maximum value of something"-limits are not uncommon in software development. Otherwise they could run into massive performance problems or it could cause client crashes etc. And there are also consoles. They have other limits here and there and in those cases it is common to take the "least common denominator"-path.

I guess, they will lift many limits with 7.x.



Cheers

Why not then design new unique hairstyles for Hrothgar that fit the adequate polygon count and still retain their ears? Why lock Hrothgar players out of the other already existing Hrothgar hairstyles? Are they still locked to the face options?

[SherlottaEryut]

Why not then design new unique hairstyles for Hrothgar that fit the adequate polygon count and still retain their ears? Why lock Hrothgar players out of the other already existing Hrothgar hairstyles? Are they still locked to the face options?

Oddly enough, the conversation of more Hrothgar hairstyles have sparked up since the reveal of 6.1's selections. If the future modern aesthetics/pre-existing hairstyles are going to come at the cost of Hrothgar's ears, I'd rather they just give Hrothgar more race-exclusive hairstyles.

[Denji]

The easiest was to resolve this imo is to just make ears a facial option for all face/hairstyles and allow the person to choose whether or not they're fine with the clipping.

[Larirawiel]

I would be more willing to believe this if the game didn't already run perfectly fine for those who have broken the rules/tos and modified their client so that Hrothgar can use other hairstyles. Additionally Viera ears use way more resources.
Square doesn't need your help to make up scenarios to defend its decisions; they're perfectly capable of doing that themselves but choose not to.

Maybe the game would run perfectly on your computer with some mods or equivalents. But the AMD Bulldozer fiasco showed, that there are players who play the game on computers which are 10+ years old. With an increased polygon count the game could become unplayable. And we do not know whether the mods work well with every graphical effect or not. I have seen some modded screenshots, which showed, that the mods had serious issues with some races.

Yes, the situation is not very good for Hrothgar players, i can understand it.



Cheers

[Theskymarble]

I'm not happy