Give OCE players a free transfer off their dead datacenter.

[Jojoya]

I wonder why they made so many servers for OCE.
Probably woulda been better if they made a single one considering their population numbers

Because it would have buckled under the stress of 100k characters trying to log in at the same time.

It's not the number of worlds in the data center causing long queues because queues are cross world regardless. It's the active population across the entire data center and what content they want to do that is affecting the queues. If 75% of the population is trying to get through the non dungeon/trial portions of the MSQ, that's only 25% of the population trying to do other things that might include hunts, crafting/gathering, treasure maps, etc.

It might be a reasonably healthy number as a whole, but not when you start splitting it down into "this player is queueing for Expert roulette, this player is queueing for Trials roulette, this player is queueing for Alliance roulette, this player is queueing for Baelsar's Wall for MSQ completion and so on". None of those players are going to be placed into the same party because the content they are queueing doesn't match. Mentors would generally help fill parties for many of those queues but how many mentors went to Materia and are queueing for Mentor roulette?

It's also not going to help when tank/healer/DPS role requirements for parties need to be met. There could be 100 players in queue for leveling roulette but if there are only 5 tanks, 3 healers and 92 DPS, there's going to be a long wait for 88 out of the 100.

[Tigerlilley]

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We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

[DixieBellOCE]

We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

Honestly ravana has a huge bot problem with hundreds of fake FC's being made to buy up houses, you would be better off just making marketboard alts to sell stuff than transfering over

[Tigerlilley]

Honestly ravana has a huge bot problem with hundreds of fake FC's being made to buy up houses, you would be better off just making marketboard alts to sell stuff than transfering over

I had a look at those bots and it seems non of them are past level 50. They wont be able to buy in Shirogane or in Ishgard.

They're still a massive issue, of course, but they're not worth staying on a dead server for

[Jojoya]

We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

You're the first one I've seen mention marketboard problems in this thread (though I've seen the complaint elsewhere, and might have missed someone else's comments in this one).

I was addressing those complaining about the duty queues.

isn't DF across servers? So the same thing would happen regardless with multiple servers?

Right, that's what I was saying. The number of worlds isn't impacting duty queues. It would severely affect log in queues.

Having the population spread out between multiple worlds and data centers allows more players to log in at the same time. We know it's not solely at the logical data center level (though that's also a factor). At the start of the expansion Balmung players were facing multi-hour log in queues even though log in queues for Coeurl were rarely more than 5 minutes and we're on the same logical data center.

I had a look at those bots and it seems non of them are past level 50. They wont be able to buy in Shirogane or in Ishgard.

They're still a massive issue, of course, but they're not worth staying on a dead server for

Does the quest requirement also apply to purchase of FC houses in those districts, or just personal houses/apartments? Considering the difference in purchase requirements between FC and personal, I'm not sure the quest would be needed for a FC house entry.

If the quest completion isn't needed, then it simply takes one high level RMT character buying an apartment in one of those districts then friending low level RMT characters so all those low level characters have access to at least that one ward.

[Tigerlilley]

If the quest completion isn't needed, then it simply takes one high level RMT character buying an apartment in one of those districts then friending low level RMT characters so all those low level characters have access to at least that one ward.

Your character needs to physically get to the placard to click on it. If you haven't finished 3.0 HW story, you can't get to Empyrean. If you haven't cleared through to Kugane, you cannot physically get to Shirogane.

So sure, maybe the apartment thing would work but im unsure they'll go to this much effort.

[Jojoya]

Your character needs to physically get to the placard to click on it. If you haven't finished 3.0 HW story, you can't get to Empyrean. If you haven't cleared through to Kugane, you cannot physically get to Shirogane.

So sure, maybe the apartment thing would work but im unsure they'll go to this much effort.

You can get to the placard if there is someone on your friends list with an estate (whether house or apartment) in the ward and Estate Teleportation enabled. I was running around Shirogane on newly created character because I had friends with houses there. I could only be in the wards where their houses were located, and couldn't talk to the ferryman to get to Kugane but certainly I had access to all the placards in those wards.

I'm certain Empyreum will be the same thing. SE wants friends to be able to visit housing owned by friends. So high level RMT characters buy up apartments, each one in a different ward marked for FC purchase. They add 200 low level RMT characters to their friends list and enable Estate Teleportation for the apartments. All those low level RMT characters can now get to placards.

Will RMT go to the effort? Of course RMT will go to the effort. Effort is what makes money.

To be fair, that's just a poorly designed market board system. I play on Light which is active but you can just jump between servers to buy stuff that's cheaper elsewhere within your data centre. The obvious solution here would be a redesigned market board that's one giant market for all home worlds within a data centre. That way I can just buy/sell DC-wide and for people in less populated servers, they're fundamentally not missing out on anything.

That was SE's original intent when they were working on adding world visit but they ran into technical issues. I think it's still something they want to accomplish but there's no way of knowing when they'll be able to get past those hurdles.

Theres just barely anyone at end game so stuff like food, pots, gear - it just doesn't sell. It was the final nail in the coffin for our community who reaaaally don't want to be late to the housing market but no amount of copium can trick them into thinking its viable to stay on a server like Bismarck. They're ready to leave as soon as possible.

Well, there's your problem. You're focusing on items that have a very small market at best for your data center. You should be selling the items that leveling players can use, not items that Savage raiders want.

[Johners]

We are finding that the number of servers aren't the problem for queues, but for the marketboard. If you're not on Ravana, it is incredibly hard to sell anything...at all. As soon as the 90 days are up we are shifting our whole FC off Bismarck for this exact reason.

For a while people were excited that it would be dead easy to get a house on a dead server but this excitement was swiftly killed off by the fact no one can make any gil.

To be fair, that's just a poorly designed market board system. I play on Light which is active but you can just jump between servers to buy stuff that's cheaper elsewhere within your data centre. The obvious solution here would be a redesigned market board that's one giant market for all home worlds within a data centre. That way I can just buy/sell DC-wide and for people in less populated servers, they're fundamentally not missing out on anything.

[Tigerlilley]

Theres just barely anyone at end game so stuff like food, pots, gear - it just doesn't sell. It was the final nail in the coffin for our community who reaaaally don't want to be late to the housing market but no amount of copium can trick them into thinking its viable to stay on a server like Bismarck. They're ready to leave as soon as possible.

As community leaders, we have a lot of regrets. We should have encouraged people to chill and just see how the population would go before picking which server to move to. Its just everyone was so excited. We should have deffinately waited to see if SE was going to open cross region - honestly a lot of people thought they would. Then Live Letter after Live Letter went past and just zero mention of us while they discussed opening datacentre travel for NA, EU and JP.

I gave up on my alt over there because I got sick of bouncing around Limsa's on each world begging people to join my PF so I could clear story instances, because that sure as sh wasn't happening in duty finder. Miserable experience. I know a lot of people regret moving their mains so fast, especially the ones that gave up housing to do it.

We're finding that the Kiwi's who have 9 to 5s are having to stay up later than they'd like to get any queues because nothing pops outside of Australian peak times. Want to play during the day? Forget it, theres no one there. Unlike EU and NA who are a melting pot of different times zones with substantially bigger populations, you have about 2 hours a night on OCE to get anything done.

Many regrets. I just feel sad for everyone tbh.

I didn't even realise that SEA players couldn't choose their countries when making an account. Is it possible that is why SE got these metrics so wrong?

I know they don't usually take feedback from the English forums and I know I'm just whining into thin air here. Just yeah, lots of regrets. Feel bad for my community.

[hagare]

It's also not going to help when tank/healer/DPS role requirements for parties need to be met. There could be 100 players in queue for leveling roulette but if there are only 5 tanks, 3 healers and 92 DPS, there's going to be a long wait for 88 out of the 100.

isn't DF across servers? So the same thing would happen regardless with multiple servers?