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  1. #11
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    I am actually curious why wouldn't SE enable cross region Duty finder? is bandwidth cost the issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious-Cat View Post
    I am actually curious why wouldn't SE enable cross region Duty finder? is bandwidth cost the issue?
    It's because the Japanese don't want filthy gaijin messing up their PFs. They can't figure out a way to open cross region for the rest of the world and not Japan without admitting that.

    This is a serious reply by the way. Yoshi has said they can do it but they're concerned about cultural differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    It's because the Japanese don't want filthy gaijin messing up their PFs. They can't figure out a way to open cross region for the rest of the world and not Japan without admitting that.

    This is a serious reply by the way. Yoshi has said they can do it but they're concerned about cultural differences.
    HAHA NA CAN'T READ MACRO's, they also mentioned stuff around privacy due to data having to leave the Physical DC if I recall.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    But you all asked for OCE data center, so now why you complained it's dead? Clearly you should know how much people gonna play there...
    assuming this comment isn't in bad faith and is genuine, most of us expected regional travel to be a given at some point when making our original plans, allowing a lower pop server to still thrive for more casual play with options to hang out with people outside of it/people playing here when they're not doing savage with their old content groups from JP/NA

    with it now being only a possibility, and one that seems more slim by the day, the concern is genuine with us only really having 100k people according to the census, and a large portent of those just being.. alts for the free shit
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  5. 04-07-2022 11:23 AM
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    people are selfish and it doesn't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    OCE player here.
    Asking for a free transfer is a bit rich considering you got a free transfer there. If you work majority of the time, surely the $15 to leave isn't a big ask.

    Theres only a few weeks to go until the 90 days is up then you can leave with every one else.
    considering they got 3 months of sub just to sit around and do nothing because queues are dead, no housing ect ect.
    i think a free transfer back is quite acceptable to ask of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    So they wasted hardware on OCE players that didn't even really want to be there? They just wanted a casual hangout place and expected to just jump to any other global spot and play there. Which was also a function not even in the game yet and might not even have worked.



    If OCE players were not positive they could maintain a healthy player base why even ask? It feels incredibly selfish. Should NA ask for four regional spots and make SE pay for them all. Should EU ask for a data centre for each country? If this was because "JPN ONRY" I am sorry you guys are being treated like second class. But if it was just a selfish casual thing, that is pretty sad.


    To the OP after the lockdown period is over just pay and be quiet. You were literally given the hardware the rest of the world desperately needed and you don't like it so you want free transfers.
    Here's the thing

    you give people the option to play here outside of statics that happen once a week? you can totally sustain a userbase here, but most OCE players are still on their original servers because static commitments and friend groups can't be broken without the option to still play together without paying every time to transfer temporarily.

    i'm not even from OCE, I'm from NA playing with oce friends myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious-Cat View Post
    The real solution to ease congestion and dead datacenters have always been cross region play xD

    Don't think it is gonna help in FF14


    From what I understand, cross-region data center travel plucks your character's data from home data center and upload it to destination data center, the vice versa when you leave. So unless you're keen to stay in other data centers with all of it inconveniences, the feature won't help with low-pop dungeon/raid queue cuz our queue are simply not connected.
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  9. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by DezereDawn View Post
    assuming this comment isn't in bad faith and is genuine, most of us expected regional travel to be a given at some point when making our original plans, allowing a lower pop server to still thrive for more casual play with options to hang out with people outside of it/people playing here when they're not doing savage with their old content groups from JP/NA

    with it now being only a possibility, and one that seems more slim by the day, the concern is genuine with us only really having 100k people according to the census, and a large portent of those just being.. alts for the free shit
    Out of that 100k players, well over 60k of those just wanted free 14 days sub.

    Out of the 40k remaining, 20k of those are just alts and another 10k are bots.

    So we only have around 10k actual players on the DC, and thats quite evident when you visit every server during peak times.


    This is a player search right now, at 12:30 in the afternoon on Ravana.





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  10. #19
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    Can confirm - our aus/nz fc on Behemoth had barely any players who raid that left. Everyone knew that datacentre would die without cross region.

    Ive been playing with my raid team (including NA players) since T4 was current. Whats that, 2013, 2012? Ping is fine for us, there was zero reason to ship off to a deserted island datacentre.

    They needed to open cross region for OCE from the beginning. It may well have convinced even the most settled of us to go.
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  11. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    Don't think it is gonna help in FF14

    From what I understand, cross-region data center travel plucks your character's data from home data center and upload it to destination data center, the vice versa when you leave. So unless you're keen to stay in other data centers with all of it inconveniences, the feature won't help with low-pop dungeon/raid queue cuz our queue are simply not connected.
    I was thinking more like the concept of player lobby, players everywhere with relevant client and internet can just join a lobby to do stuff and the duty finder/roulettes create and do the matchmaking. Let's say an OCE player is trying to do Trial roulette on non peak OCE time but its bussing in NA rn so the OCE player gets put together with the NA people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    It's because the Japanese don't want filthy gaijin messing up their PFs. They can't figure out a way to open cross region for the rest of the world and not Japan without admitting that.

    This is a serious reply by the way. Yoshi has said they can do it but they're concerned about cultural differences.
    But what if its thru language selection?
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