What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Theodric]

Yeah I stopped taking the story seriously when I got to The Plenty.

Ancient, infinitely wise and all powerful beings killed themselves because a space bird asked some questions.

Uh huh.

Yeah, it's bizarre. Looking at our own species we've barely scratched the surface of what there is to see and explore in regards to our own planet since there's a whole lot of mysteries to uncover such as what exists within the deepest reaches of the world's oceans. Remnants of previous civilisations are also discovered quite frequently as well.

When we eventually explore all there is to find in regards to our own planet, we can safely look at what can be found elsewhere amongst the planets both near and far. It's a safe bet that other species would follow a similar trajectory instead of deciding to just kill themselves because they're bored. Even if some decided to do that, it's not like every single member of the species would opt to do as much. Especially if they weren't a hive mind.

[Caurcas]

Yeah I stopped taking the story seriously when I got to The Plenty.

Ancient, infinitely wise and all powerful beings killed themselves because a space bird asked some questions.

Uh huh.

EDIT: No wait, the Ea were arguably worse.

I mean of the Ancients were wise and all powerful why did they fail to account for someone like Hermes or a creature like Meteion. For all their bluster, they were still very mortal and prone to blinding pride.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

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It's the penalty of being a successful mmo: they're going to start tripping. I personally see them as tripping and trying to get back up while others see them as falling so hard they exited the other side of the planet. It stops being criticism when personal attacks get involved because person A doesn't like that person B likes what person A doesn't and vice versa. If I was ever that person, I apologize.

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Because fandom and again people living in XIV. They can't bear to see their favorite characters die off for any reason even when their stories are completed. Also I've only played III, IV, V, VI, XV, and two Crystal Chronicles. I've touched VII, XII, and XIV is ongoing. I don't know who these antagonists are and not going to say which ones I think because spoilers for old games that were remastered recently.

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Tropes themselves aren't inherently bad, it's how they're used. And they didn't use them well this expansion, I admit that. Also how were the elements being destroyed?

Unfortunately the majority disagrees. Some creators just won't allow their characters to die no matter how hard it ruins the story. While others do it because lol then build the story around or off of that. But the fakeouts absolutely have to stop, though I strongly doubt they will. I didn't mind the fluff, least of all that delicious looking burger. But I still wanted some bad to go with the good that actually lasted. They looked like they were having a last meal.

By the way when I say lives in XIV, I'm referring to the people who sent death threats to the devs. There's other aspects of it but that's the big one that removes all doubt.

[aveyond-dreams]

G'raha Tia eating a hamburger in no way invoked the feel of a "last meal." Anyway, unless the Heavensward team finally finishes off FFXVI I suppose we can anticipate G'raha Tia becoming our Anduin and Y'shtola being the Sylvanas of FFXIV!

[KageTokage]

"It's okay to support Emet's ethnic cleansing because it's really Venat's fault!" -this thread.

Thanks for proving you haven't actually been reading most of this thread (And evidently other people as well) because that's the opinion of...basically nobody here.

Two wrongs don't make a right, rather one wrong led to another. I don't think anything soured my opinion of Venat more then them confirming she willfully let Emet-Selch and the others escape despite knowing full well the things they'd do and never actually stating that she was trying to preserve the original timeline, either.

It's funny because they could've opted to absolve her of that by just stating that the unsundered did genuinely manage to escape through their own means but they didn't for...some reason. It makes me even more confused about what they were trying to accomplish because they clearly want us to think Venat is good, but actively wrote things in a way that makes it easy to think otherwise.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

G'raha Tia eating a hamburger in no way invoked the feel of a "last meal." Anyway, unless the Heavensward team finally finishes off FFXVI I suppose we can anticipate G'raha Tia becoming our Anduin and Y'shtola being the Sylvanas of FFXIV!

There were other people there. And I've played enough games and watched enough shows to know that the happy was going to be paired with the eventual sad, fake or otherwise.

[PawPaw]

I don't think anything soured my opinion of Venat more then them confirming she willfully let Emet-Selch and others escape despite knowing full well the things they'd do..

Not to mention creating those seven reflections knowing specifically that they would be destroyed by the people she let free. We've established now that people who are 8-9/14ths are more than able to tackle that pesky Dynamis monster just fine, so being 14 times sundered wasn't even necessary. She created those shards purely because she knew they had to die for us to exist in the form she knows us in.

[Lauront]

Thanks for proving you haven't actually been reading most of this thread (And evidently other people as well) because that's the opinion of...basically nobody here.

Two wrongs don't make a right; it's more that one wrong led to another. I don't think anything soured my opinion of Venat more then them confirming she willfully let Emet-Selch and others escape despite knowing full well the things they'd do.

That poster's sole aim is to get a rise out of people here. There is no intention to discuss anything earnestly. They are best dismissed as a troll, as past experience dealing with them has proven.

[aveyond-dreams]

There were other people there. And I've played enough games and watched enough shows to know that the happy was going to be paired with the eventual sad, fake or otherwise.

Yes Alisae taking her pickles out of her hamburger also contributed significantly to making the scene a twitter meme. Whatever costly budget was allocated to it should have gone to any number of scenes such as the duel between Hydaelyn and Zodiark that were, for some reason, missing in the expansion where those 2 should have been the main focus.

[Theodric]

Yes Alisae taking her pickles out of her hamburger also contributed significantly to making the scene a twitter meme. Whatever costly budget was allocated to it should have gone to any number of scenes such as the duel between Hydaelyn and Zodiark that were, for some reason, missing in the expansion where those 2 should have been the main focus.

Another reason to loathe her, I suppose. Pickles are tasty.

On a more serious note, it's all just so far removed from ARR, HW and ShB. I stopped playing Persona 5 part way through because a bunch of bratty teenagers lecturing everyone on complicated moral issues grew tiresome so it's a shame to see FFXIV going down a similar path.