the normal content is too easy

[Jeeqbit]

Zodiark is one of the easiest fights both normal and EX we've ever had. All it requires is two people to know where to go and the rest to follow their assigned shape.

I had to do it on an alt I was taking through EW. They wiped. They had no idea where to go or what to do and got hit by everything. So I shrugged and put a dorito on myself and they cleared. That doesn't mean it's easy. It's just easy if someone who has farmed it a lot carries you. For the person with the dorito, they have to actually do the maths of calculating where mechanics will land and sometimes they get it wrong.

[Kyrj]

I had to do it on an alt I was taking through EW. They wiped. They had no idea where to go or what to do and got hit by everything. So I shrugged and put a dorito on myself and they cleared. That doesn't mean it's easy. It's just easy if someone who has farmed it a lot carries you. For the person with the dorito, they have to actually do the maths of calculating where mechanics will land and sometimes they get it wrong.

You follow someone who knows what they're doing and learn that way, next time you're in there you can lead. There's no "math" or w/e involved. It's a rotating floor, not rocket science.

[Jeeqbit]

When people hear this, they jump to 'EXTREME/SAVAGE/ULTIMATE' and "DARKSOULS" way too quickly. What about midcore content

Players on here deal only in extremes. When players ask for something more engaging then faceroll, the first answer is "do savage", why cant there be anything between faceroll and savage/extremes.

We are getting Criterion dungeons through this expansion.

You follow someone who knows what they're doing and learn that way, next time you're in there you can lead. There's no "math" or w/e involved. It's a rotating floor, not rocket science.

For the normal version, yes. For extreme it's different because it combines two of them at once forcing you to work out the safe spot with no telegraphs. For extreme, it seemed evident that the people I talked to in parties did not learn to lead after only one clear, but after enough clears where they actually tried to identify the safe spots themselves.

[Kyrj]

We are getting Criterion dungeons through this expansion.

For the normal version, yes. For extreme it's different because it combines two of them at once forcing you to work out the safe spot with no telegraphs. For extreme, it seemed evident that the people I talked to in parties did not learn to lead after only one clear, but after enough clears where they actually tried to identify the safe spots themselves.

So again, people who know what to do will lead. The fight is 100% just follow those who know wtf to do. Once you've got it down 100% next time you're in there you can lead. Again you people make it out to be some massively difficult fight when in reality it's the easiest EX we've gotten in a while.