New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[SacraAnima]

Is it possible that those new hairstyles were actually an April Fool's joke? I mean, they are so horribly bad that they couldn't possibly be real, right? RIGHT?

as far as we know, it's not a joke. They've never made an April Fools joke in a live letter before, and it's now several days past April 1st in Japan with no word or update on the legitimacy of those images. They have done April Fools pranks in the past, but in the form of lodestone post and tweets. Nothing like this. Not to mention if it was an April Fools joke, it would be in incredibly poor taste. I think the realistic view is that these are actual representations of what Hrothgars will be getting come 6.1

[Zerard]

When thinking about the 'new' hrothgar hairstyles, I cant help but think of this slide that YoshiP presented in 2014 on why the original FF14 (patch 1.0) had failed in a certain conference, and what they had learned. I think it was sometime after the implementation of A Realm Reborn (2.0)



Points 1 and 3 seem heavily contradicted upon with the reveal of these hairstyles. The overall reaction from the fans has been overwhelmingly negative. Not just from hrothgar players either; many of the fans from all over the world acknowledge the lacking nature of these hairstyles. I'm really, really hoping that someone from the dev team takes notice of this feedback from the fans. If these statements still hold true to this day... then this alone should be sufficient enough reason to delay and improve upon these hairstyles before they go live.

But if that somehow isnt enough reason, point 3 shows that if the team's conviction is met with the 'limitations' that they face right now, that they shouldn't be backing down from a challenge simply because it puts their skills to the test. There has been many examples where the dev team has been met with numerous challenges many many times, and that they have met and surmounted most, if not each and every one. I hate to feel that I'm entitled when bring up these points or that I feel dissatisfied at the lack of care or attention of what was presented at the live letter; I genuinely enjoy this game that Yoshida and his team have been building meticulously over all these years. I just... wish all players could be shown the effort of the team (at least from an aesthetic standpoint) equally...

[Magiron]

This is so depressing...

Its completely killed my excitement for fem-hroth too, it felt like a bad April Fools joke but. :c

[CrimsonGunner]

When thinking about the 'new' hrothgar hairstyles, I cant help but think of this slide that YoshiP presented in 2014 on why the original FF14 (patch 1.0) had failed in a certain conference, and what they had learned. I think it was sometime after the implementation of A Realm Reborn (2.0)



Points 1 and 3 seem heavily contradicted upon with the reveal of these hairstyles. The overall reaction from the fans has been overwhelmingly negative. Not just from hrothgar players either; many of the fans from all over the world acknowledge the lacking nature of these hairstyles. I'm really, really hoping that someone from the dev team takes notice of this feedback from the fans. If these statements still hold true to this day... then this alone should be sufficient enough reason to delay and improve upon these hairstyles before they go live.

But if that somehow isnt enough reason, point 3 shows that if the team's conviction is met with the 'limitations' that they face right now, that they shouldn't be backing down from a challenge simply because it puts their skills to the test. There has been many examples where the dev team has been met with numerous challenges many many times, and that they have met and surmounted most, if not each and every one. I hate to feel that I'm entitled when bring up these points or that I feel dissatisfied at the care or attention of what was presented at the live letter; I genuinely enjoy this game that Yoshida and his team have been building meticulously over all these years. I just... wish all players could be shown the effort of the team (at least from an aesthetic standpoint) equally...

its a shame they stop following these guidelines, you hrothgar deserved better implementaion of your race.
its bad enough u need fantasia to change hairstyle, but now even already implemented hairstyle is done badly.

if they actually follow what they posted before maybe stuff were actually solved in the community like healers issues, drk issues, yours and viera implementations instead of waiting for next expansion + to actually get answered but in the worst way possible(horrible implementation)

[Balmung_Griffin]

1 - Proceed to put horrible hairstyles in game.
2 - Hrothgar players keep original hairstyles.

Conclusion: Hrothgar players don't want to change hairstyles.

Oh, and another thing that should be clear, even with ears these hairstyles are simply not good enough.

It's really not about fixing those hairstyles, it's to carefully select and create hairstyles that MAKES SENSE for Hrothgar.

[Kelev]

I just... wish all players could be shown the effort of the team (at least from an aesthetic standpoint) equally...

And, Zerard, I don't think a lot of folks know not just that these new hairstyles are slapdash and awful, but the original ones were no prizes either. I see a lot of this based on the head I chose:



That last picture? That's no-mods-installed Radovan in no-mods GNB class gear without me even clicking on him to change his head position.

This wasn't just an opportunity to make haircuts for us. This was the time that they were, in my opinion, going to finish the Hrothgar. My response to these haircuts isn't "They're hideous."

It's "Finish me."

[Evergrey]

Seeing how it was shown on April Fools day I will take them as such until proven wrong.

[Kelev]

Seeing how it was shown on April Fools day I will take them as such until proven wrong.

I am super hoping you're right. I hope everyone gets a good solid chuckle about how bad YoshiP "gottem, bois." I hope my Discord lights up with "man you got OWNED" on April 12th.

That said, past behavior being the best indicator of future performance? And the number of years people have had to pay $10 to choose one of two haircuts available? And that they were showing Viera concept art two live letters before it happened? If it's a joke, it just kinda highlighted the other times the race has seemed unfinished. From Gunnhildr being a femroe, to Radovan's collar, to the $10 haircuts. Which I'm not gonna laugh about later.

Joke or not? I'm still just gonna be out $10 because I got tired of having to re-dye my mane every time I changed my shirt.

[reivaxe]

Saying they picked two designs and are thinking about how those would look and how they would put them in character creation doesn't sound like they have models made and are testing them, but if that's how it reads to you that's fine.

Since it's not what the thread is about we'll just have to agree to disagree.

First off, I forgot to ty for that bit of sarcastic-yet-true respect on the fortune-teller comment. I DID call ... all of this. Hrothgar getting "Wigs" along with Hrothgar just getting the same hairstyles they gave to Viera after they revealed the Viera hairstyles. None of this is a shock to me, if they're not making new-n-unique hair for Viera they're surely not doing it for Hrothgar.

Also, they're not "Thinking of" using these design, they picked them and are figuring out how they would look and work. You only learn what you can or can't do in CC/ what things would look like in the game by trying out stuff IN the game. Female hrothgar are not gonna be some running-on-all-4s monsters, you can test textures/ looks and such on the females in game to see how they look because they will be based on a model that's in the game already.

The wording here is a little baffling you have 2 possible designs, but you're trying to figure out how they would look? It sounds more contradictory than anything

I'll try to break it down.
Hrothgar males- if you watch what the artist behind them had to say you'll see how Face 2 (The pretty face) and Face 4 (The Ronso face) were the first 2 designs they landed on. Face 1 and 3 came later and there were other faces that were rejected, but the base concept for the heads of what would be in the game were decided on with Face 2 and 4.

If you fallow what YP said years ago, you'll remember the reason Hrothgar's tail tips are all black is because they found that they simply ran outta memory allowance for them with all the memory it took for the body hair and fur patterns to change color. Shocking to hear, but Hrothgar's fur pattern and body hair are unique features that change the color of parts of their body that no other race has. Makes sense when you look at the concept art for them and see that, yes, they wanted the tail tips to change color. That's a limit they would only realize after seeing what they can do in game.

As for Female Hrothgar, there's the fact that we can all assume they will come in 7.0 and in 7.0 the specs are going up with a graphics update. What they CAN do will also change, and many of us expect a CC update to come at some point post 7.0 because of that.
So yeah, they landed on 2 designs and are seeing what they can do with em CC wise.

[Seafishie]

It took them THREE years and we get some hand-me-down wigs for middle aged soccer moms? This wasn't just negligence, this was straight up disrespectful.