<MATERIA> First-Come First-Served AND Lottery Plots

[KidHeracles]

Aaaand the ultimate punch in the gut. They CONFIRMED we will have to pick between our FC or our private!!
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I have to pick between a house for me or a house for my FC but literally why? Who even stands to gain from a stupid rule like this????
Why even add a rule like this? It literally does nothing except screw the OCE players!!!!

This is why I'm convinced that the first lottery will be FC only. There's no need to pick between FC and personal housing then.

OCE players are better off with 6.1 launch being FC-only lottery. With so much supply, every FC will be able to afford a house in a housing area that best matches the culture of an FC. It's better that the premium plots are FC-run, it helps bring community to the housing areas and gives a reason for undesirable plots near the FC house to be picked up as personal houses by FC members in subsequent lotteries.

No reason for the second lottery to be FC-only, but I bet they only make sub-divisions be personal lottery because they are slower to sell.


I wonder whether many of the people here have ever tried to buy tickets for a popular concert, or buy a popular good, at release. It's horrible. Lotteries aren't fair either but with limited supply it's unfair in a different, more socially cohesive way than FCFS. There's room for both but let's give lottery a go first for a month or so.

[LunaFancy]

I wonder whether many of the people here have ever tried to buy tickets for a popular concert, or buy a popular good, at release. It's horrible. Lotteries aren't fair either but with limited supply it's unfair in a different, more socially cohesive way than FCFS. There's room for both but let's give lottery a go first for a month or so.

I wonder if you gave up a home you loved in order to bring your main across to the new data centre so that it wouldn't be 100% sprouts just as much?

It's an awful way to punish us for supporting the new data centre and there is no way to spin it otherwise.

The deception by omission is what needs to be focused on at this point, because it is unforgivable. Had they revealed the lottery system prior to opening the data centre and we transferred anyway then that would be on us, but they never, not once, stated we would not be able to simply FCFS our old houses back on Materia.

The only mention they made of the lottery back then was in relation to Empyreum. It never occurred to me that these devs would be underhanded enough to do what they have indeed done to those of us who trusted them to be transparent. Well fool me once shame on you, I and many others will never trust that they are acting in good faith again, so nice job on on the PR front SE.

I hope you are right about the FC lock, but I don't think you will be. I'm just glad I brought my alt across to help found the FC and he can purchase the house for the FC.

[KidHeracles]

I've only been around for like 8 months so of course I didn't own a house in JP. I co-ran the FC house, which as only <12 months old, was a small in a sub-division in the Goblet, about the highest turnover there is. I've no attachment to it.

It's all pixels, and you'll get your beloved plot again. Don't tell me though that it's not tempting to upscale, to go for that medium or large, in a premium housing district like Mist or Shirogane.

The deception by omission is what needs to be focused on at this point, because it is unforgivable.

Square Enix isn't responsible for your assumptions. They said launching Materia DC before 6.1 was a gift to the community that came with strings: housing won't be available until 6.1, which would be released in April. You filled in the gaps with what you wanted to hear and now you're trying to hold Square Enix accountable to your flights of fancy.

I would be very curious to hear how you would fairly handle different players owning the same plot from different servers if it wasn't for a lottery system; I think we've established FCFS isn't fair.

We're with FFXIV for the long haul: what is happening over these three months is negligible in this multi-decade project Square-Enix has got going on. You'll move on emotionally by the end of April. Is only a game..

[Shibi]

This is why I'm convinced that the first lottery will be FC only.

Absolute false hope. They will do it like all worlds at once.

On old worlds there is no need to do FC first.

The fair thing for those people who gave up their homes, would have been to open the original cities for all on materia weeks ago.

[LunaFancy]

Absolute false hope. They will do it like all worlds at once.

On old worlds there is no need to do FC first.

The fair thing for those people who gave up their homes, would have been to open the original cities for all on materia weeks ago.

At this point the only truly fair thing to do is to reinstate our old plots to us. Give us a different ward than the old ward if there are double ups but give them back to us because we were tricked out of them by deception.

Any other industry would face consequences for such deceptive business practice and you can bet they won't be doing this to the new worlds on the new JP data centres.

maybe we should get a few choice words translated into Japanese and flood the twitch chat during the LL with our protests because clearly they won't hear us any other way.

[DeNada]

At this point the only truly fair thing to do is to reinstate our old plots to us. Give us a different ward than the old ward if there are double ups but give them back to us because we were tricked out of them by deception.

Any other industry would face consequences for such deceptive business practice and you can bet they won't be doing this to the new worlds on the new JP data centres.

maybe we should get a few choice words translated into Japanese and flood the twitch chat during the LL with our protests because clearly they won't hear us any other way.

There is no deception, you are not assured of getting back the same plot even with FCFS.

Also, reinstating plots is just ridiculous. So all other players on Oceania should be deprived of a plot they wanted simply because you had one in your previous server? Everyone who transferred worlds did so willingly and those who transferred to standard servers instead of new worlds even had to relinquish their old homes with zero compensation (meaning they had to forfeit whatever amount they paid for their own homes which could be up to 50 million gil if they own a large). You were already compensated the full amount of your own plot plus an additional 3 million so you are already in a better place than the others.

[LaylaTsarra]

There is no deception, you are not assured of getting back the same plot even with FCFS.

Also, reinstating plots is just ridiculous. So all other players on Oceania should be deprived of a plot they wanted simply because you had one in your previous server? Everyone who transferred worlds did so willingly and those who transferred to standard servers instead of new worlds even had to relinquish their old homes with zero compensation (meaning they had to forfeit whatever amount they paid for their own homes which could be up to 50 million gil if they own a large). You were already compensated the full amount of your own plot plus an additional 3 million so you are already in a better place than the others.

There was a deception they didn't expect this to be a lottery only DC and I'd be willing to bet the decision to go full lotto was known before. That wasn't made clear before people gave up their homes and in Luna's case a large. He was simply expecting along with a lot of others who gave up houses to be in a FCFS environment just like they did when they opened servers in the EU. Very unfair for SE to put out housing rules after people made those decisions to transfer. They should have known what to expect up front

Easy for lotto proponents to poo poo their expectations but most I'm sure expected FCFS and a split in FCFS and LOTTO for Ishgard.

And if I'm not mistaken you are awarded the devalued price of the plot plus 3 million which is probably less than the price he paid but be that as it may the gil isn't sufficient compensation given you can't simply walk up to a plot and purchase a large at will. I don't think he was initially proposing that he was owed a large plot as a replacement but only expected to be able to complete for one outside of the Lottery. He appears now to be somewhat bitter at this point and I don't blame him given that should have been clearly stated before people made their transfers.

He's not in a better place he gave up a significant house to help populate a DC which i might add has only 5 servers. Try and get stuff to queue here when it comes to raids like Rab, Lighthouse and so on. Housing was a significant factor for many when making that transfer along with the better ping.