Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Ixon]

Community mods generally only close threads if they are problematic. Rarely because they’re too large (like the original Tales from the Duty Finder and Show Your Mi’qote threads). That they haven’t posted in here doesn’t mean much—they don’t post in threads often.

That said, the jaded healer in me doubts anyone has even looked at it. Regardless of the amount of traction it’s getting.

JP Forums get more looked at than NA ones for sure. Partly because it's a JP game whose main target are JP players, and another part that the JP forums are usually not as, lack of a better word, emotional than NA ones. A lot of JP posts are very concise, to the point, with reasoning and examples, pros and cons, etc, etc. The word of mouth I have heard is the community managers scrape the forums, consolidate the information, then feed it back to Dev HQ for them to mull over. There definitely used to be way more interaction on the forums from the community managers, unsure what started the decline, most likely it just turned into attacks and name calling. Especially with how hostile the forums have become lately, I'm not surprised they aren't sticking their neck out to the community chopping block.

[shao32]

JP Forums get more looked at than NA ones for sure. Partly because it's a JP game whose main target are JP players, and another part that the JP forums are usually not as, lack of a better word, emotional than NA ones. A lot of JP posts are very concise, to the point, with reasoning and examples, pros and cons, etc, etc. The word of mouth I have heard is the community managers scrape the forums, consolidate the information, then feed it back to Dev HQ for them to mull over. There definitely used to be way more interaction on the forums from the community managers, unsure what started the decline, most likely it just turned into attacks and name calling. Especially with how hostile the forums have become lately, I'm not surprised they aren't sticking their neck out to the community chopping block.

It's funny bcs JP players think the Devs listen more to us than them and are actually JP players that had been called for being specially agressive against the devs recently due to some SAM stuff.

At the end of the day i think Yoship has decided he will push his vision of job design on us and if you are one of those wich job/role get affected the most and don't like it to bad as he bassically say himself on the job changes presentation of EW.

[IDontPetLalas]

JP Forums get more looked at than NA ones for sure. Partly because it's a JP game whose main target are JP players, and another part that the JP forums are usually not as, lack of a better word, emotional than NA ones. A lot of JP posts are very concise, to the point, with reasoning and examples, pros and cons, etc, etc. The word of mouth I have heard is the community managers scrape the forums, consolidate the information, then feed it back to Dev HQ for them to mull over. There definitely used to be way more interaction on the forums from the community managers, unsure what started the decline, most likely it just turned into attacks and name calling. Especially with how hostile the forums have become lately, I'm not surprised they aren't sticking their neck out to the community chopping block.

So let me get this straight, you're saying that you think that the lack of attention of the NA forums is due to the main target of the game being JP players? Interesting, because while it is popular in Japan, if the metrics that i can call up in just a 5 minute search are correct, JP players only account for less than 25% of the characters, with about 75% being EU and NA. NOTE- that's on "all' characters - not just 'active'.

Do you really think that SE marketing doesn't know this (if it is in fact true), and that input from these forums is completely ignored?

I mean, that doesn't mean i don't think it shouldn't be improved- I definitely do- but i would be surprised if there isn't some reporting back to SE.

[CrimsonGunner]

So let me get this straight, you're saying that you think that the lack of attention of the NA forums is due to the main target of the game being JP players? Interesting, because while it is popular in Japan, if the metrics that i can call up in just a 5 minute search are correct, JP players only account for less than 25% of the characters, with about 75% being EU and NA. NOTE- that's on "all' characters - not just 'active'.

Do you really think that SE marketing doesn't know this (if it is in fact true), and that input from these forums is completely ignored?

I mean, that doesn't mean i don't think it shouldn't be improved- I definitely do- but i would be surprised if there isn't some reporting back to SE.

to be fair yoshi - p said in a live letter that they read the healers feedback and ignored it before EW so..., i pretty much lost fate in them.

at this point, at april 1 i can see the whm summery going in 2 ways:

1) it will last less then 1 min where he just says whm will have mp cost adjusted which basically be will be a slap in the face for whm mains along side an evil maniacal laugh to accompany it cause whm issues are too big that a small fix that could have been done at 6.01 to be put at 6.1 is that symbolic to a slap.

2) he will make a big speech how they will make whm great, improve cost ,change abilities and in the end it will turn out as liturgy of the bell was implemented for "healers" and the "excited upgrades" healers got to previous skills. basically one big cruel April fools joke with yoshi laughing and saying "i cant believe they bought it".

i will be more surprised if they actually will offer more then option 1 and actually give whm the treatment he deserved before EW actually released

[Deceptus]

Partly because it's a JP game whose main target are JP players,

As respectfully as possible, I hear this a lot and it's a BS excuse especially if it's true of the Devs.

FFXIV is a global game and they need to think about considerations outside of Japan.