Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Padudu]

Umm, I barely DPS. If you want a wannabe healer get a Sage. I have only ever had one person whine why I do not heal. Most of the time I get into parties who shockingly are suprised on how quick and painless the run is because the Healer actually healed instead of people freaking out because the healer only might start healing once your below 15%.

I have had constantly tanks thank me for not stressing them out and DPS who thanked me for getting us through the dungeon early. Typically mechanics whiners who are the cause of all issues in this game (They often roll Bards/Sages) are the main cause of misery because now we have one less DPS because we got a mechanic whiner literally not doing his job DPSing telling everyone what they need to do and not do well that person who is often a bard/sage does not DPS and spends the entire run trying to boss everyone around.

I'm a verrry new healer (like maybe a month into healing new). Part of it was for glam, other part is that I tank ALL the time and I want to see what it's like on the other foot and help with my focus (since I have problems with it. ADHD is not fun with this game lol.). You should always be dpsing between heals!! It's like boring anyway if you sit there topping everyone off when they're perfectly fine, it's just a waste lol. The majority of people won't say anything so if you're playing wrong you'll never know until you hit the harder raids and stuff. I learned that the hard way.

Anyway as far as HP goes I just go with what I'm comfortable with. Sometimes my reflexes are slow so I'm generally comfy with tanks being at 25-30% before I heal them. As a tank, I get the anxiety but put a little trust in people is what I've learned playing as healer. Overtime I think I've learned it's ok to let some HP go for the dps. When I go back to playing tank I realize most healers won't let me down as long as I'm also doing my job (using mits and my rotation). If I learned anything from the countless WHM videos.. ABCs.. always be casting. Anyways I'm not a healer expert by any means. But I do know the basics and try my best with it.

The person in the screenshots just wasn't dpsing at all. They didn't even have the dps skills in their bar, so they were literally just sitting there and healing.

[Imora]

Umm, I barely DPS. If you want a wannabe healer get a Sage. I have only ever had one person whine why I do not DPS. Most of the time I get into parties who shockingly are suprised on how quick and painless the run is because the Healer actually healed instead of people freaking out because the healer only might start healing once your below 15%.

I have had constantly tanks thank me for not stressing them out and DPS who thanked me for getting us through the dungeon early. Typically mechanics whiners who are the cause of all issues in this game (They often roll Bards/Sages) are the main cause of misery because now we have one less DPS because we got a mechanic whiner literally not doing his job DPSing telling everyone what they need to do and not do well that person who is often a bard/sage does not DPS and spends the entire run trying to boss everyone around.

I'd have booted you for not doing your job. Run is faster when you're dpsing, and if you have a warrior tank you don't even need to heal.

You know when to heal and when to dps, no, not everyone needs 100% HP all the time. You'll learn the fights and get a feel for it.

[HisShadowX]

I'm a verrry new healer (like maybe a month into healing new). Part of it was for glam, other part is that I tank ALL the time and I want to see what it's like on the other foot and help with my focus (since I have problems with it. ADHD is not fun with this game lol.). You should always be dpsing between heals!! It's like boring anyway if you sit there topping everyone off when they're perfectly fine, it's just a waste lol. The majority of people won't say anything so if you're playing wrong you'll never know until you hit the harder raids and stuff. I learned that the hard way.

Anyway as far as HP goes I just go with what I'm comfortable with. Sometimes my reflexes are slow so I'm generally comfy with tanks being at 25-30% before I heal them. As a tank, I get the anxiety but put a little trust in people is what I've learned playing as healer. Overtime I think I've learned it's ok to let some HP go for the dps.

Then your personality or your ADHD might not work with being a Healer. If your low on mana and the party wipes because you been DPSing the entire time its not the Tanks or DPSs fault. Your job is to heal put Medica II up and if you know your going to throw out one or two Holy Bombs or Hits make sure your tank also has regain on. The problem with the Jobs in this game they made the cool jobs Tanks. So there are a lot of people who roll the wrong job for the wrong reasons. In your case you rolled because of Glam?

As a White Mage you have three DPS skills. One a regular attack, the 2nd is a overtime attack skill which is easy to put on, and then you have a third spamming Holy Spell.

What some DPS Healers don't understand if you only start healing once your tank is at 15% chances are that tank is stressed. If he gets hit with Paralysis and you don't Esuna it because you're to busy DPSing if he freezes or something bad happens there is going to be a wipe. I've seen cases and seen stories in this thread were DPS Healers let their entire team die because instead of healing they DPS'd and the entire party died due to the healer not curing Doom or not healing 100% in which the spell then kills everyone.

You get anxiety but most people's anxiety might be worse than yours. Going through an entire run keeping your team on edge because you are barely healing is just asking for problems because you can only stress people out so much.

As for DPS I agree. DPS are pawns, if they die you could easily wait a minute or two or even three to revive but the tank has the entire team on his shoulders if he falls chances are so is everyone else.

But people should really consider their personality before rolling a class even if they look good or they think the class is cool. Its like being a person with road rage and using cruise control in the slow lane. Either you learn to calm down or you go crazy and do things your own way.

[HisShadowX]

I'd have booted you for not doing your job. Run is faster when you're dpsing, and if you have a warrior tank you don't even need to heal.

You know when to heal and when to dps, no, not everyone needs 100% HP all the time. You'll learn the fights and get a feel for it.

This reminds me of the argument for the cross class system in which we used to have in this game in which its a system barely anyone but the hardcore players liked which I think you'd enjoy it.

You are playing your class when you are healing. You DPS when you can but the Tank is the Tank and the DPS is the DPS. There is no cross DPS/TANK/HEALER system. I know your new to the game but you seem like one of those people. Have you ever wondered why in Prae you can't skip the cutscenes? That's because you used to be able to do that and what would happen is people would vote to kick anyone who was watching the cut scenes instead of skipping and running in.

You mentioned booted me? You do know booting people for playing their class is a violation of the terms? Just like for example if your a DPS Healer and refuse to heal that is techically a violation of the TOS. As a Healer you are expected to heal and when or if you can DPS.

[Imora]

This reminds me of the argument for the cross class system in which we used to have in this game in which its a system barely anyone but the hardcore players liked which I think you'd enjoy it.

You are playing your class when you are healing. You DPS when you can but the Tank is the Tank and the DPS is the DPS. There is no cross DPS/TANK/HEALER system. I know your new to the game but you seem like one of those people. Have you ever wondered why in Prae you can't skip the cutscenes? That's because you used to be able to do that and what would happen is people would vote to kick anyone who was watching the cut scenes instead of skipping and running in.

You mentioned booted me? You do know booting people for playing their class is a violation of the terms? Just like for example if your a DPS Healer and refuse to heal that is techically a violation of the TOS. As a Healer you are expected to heal and when or if you can DPS.

You're NOT playing your class only healing, and if the rest of the group agreed with it, there's nothing you can do because forcing your playstyle on three people that disagree with you is also a violation of ToS.

PS: i played during ARR, I know the cross class system well and yes, I did like it.

[Padudu]

Then your personality or your ADHD might not work with being a Healer. If your low on mana and the party wipes because you been DPSing the entire time its not the Tanks or DPSs fault.

? It's called management and reading the situation lol. I think I've only had trouble with my mana when I was literally like a week or two new into it. If everyone gets bonked from an AoE or something ofc I'm not DPSing. You shouldn't be running low on mana as long as you're being pretty consistent and you're not constantly having to heal. If a tank is constantly low and needing heals, they're not using mitigations correctly or at all, or there's something wrong with their gear. But even if you DO need to heal them constantly, mana was never that much of an issue. I'd like to think I know when I am the problem (on either side) and usually if a wipe happens I know if it's me, someone else, or both. I'm not really afraid to blame myself lol because how else do you learn. That's super insulting to say, btw. My ADHD makes it more difficult at times, it doesn't make the class unplayable.

What some DPS Healers don't understand if you only start healing once your tank is at 15% chances are that tank is stressed. If he gets hit with Paralysis and you don't Esuna it because you're to busy DPSing if he freezes or something bad happens there is going to be a wipe. I've seen cases and seen stories in this thread were DPS Healers let their entire team die because instead of healing they DPS'd and the entire party died due to the healer not curing Doom or not healing 100% in which the spell then kills everyone.

This is what I mean by 'put some trust in your healer'. I've been hit with stuns and not esuna'd as a tank plenty, plenty, PLENTY of times and yet I'm not left to die. They pop a heal, timer is gone, nice. If they esuna? Nicer. Again, it's called reading the situation lol. I'll admit, I don't esuna everything. But somehow I've been able to keep them healed through trash mobs while still dpsing - it's like magic (and a bit of swiftcast).

You get anxiety but most people's anxiety might be worse than yours. Going through an entire run keeping your team on edge because you are barely healing is just asking for problems because you can only stress people out so much.

Just like my teammates aren't responsible for my ADHD/anxiety, I'm not responsible for managing theirs. Tankxiety is something you have to learn to ease up on, that's just a fact. It just makes it harder if you don't.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Why do you guys bother responding to a dude who thought his FC was full of 'prostitutes' when it was a couple people joking around in the yard, and had been causing trouble in that same FC by acting like a tool?

There ain't no getting through to some people. Ignore trolls and don't feed them, hard as that is to do.

[Padudu]

trolls and don't feed them, hard as that is to do.

trolls make the world go 'round, though. Also, we don't have Skiros talking about masculinity in XIV, so bored.

I'll tbh I don't even think (based on what the FC leader replied anyways before that thread was blasted out of existence) that the dude is trolling most of the time. I just think it's a case of uhh.. one sandwich short of a picnic situation. lol

[Anienai]

Ignore trolls and don't feed them, hard as that is to do.

Its this or another Dark Knight needs a rework thread.

[Cincierta]

Why do you guys bother responding to a dude who thought his FC was full of 'prostitutes' when it was a couple people joking around in the yard, and had been causing trouble in that same FC by acting like a tool?

There ain't no getting through to some people. Ignore trolls and don't feed them, hard as that is to do.

I'm more surprised that the guy didn't just vanish with the previous thread after that one fiasco.