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  1. #591
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Ohhh I am certain you would! Just like you did when you deliberately killed the dancer in a moment of petty rage right? Sure sure, what ever helps you sleep at night.

    This what people are doing when they wipe groups and tank bust the party? Is so funny! I kill whole party I waste time we wipe now. Is so funny hahahaha lol xD *winky face emoji*

    Change the tone all you wish. You pk'ed the dancer with the healers support (well.. lack of support really). It is not funny it is just sad.
    There was no rage or whatever towards the DNC or the group. It was just the unusual situation of a dancer running first into a boss and attacking it while the tank was to far away to do anything, and I just let the situation play out and continued.

    Do not compare this situation to someone who wipes a whole group with uninvolved player.
    That's defenetly not funny and just a time waste for everyone.

    Also, what did the DNC lose due to the death?
    His rotation? So should I now always do a 17sec CD as PLD in a dungeon so I can play my rotation correctly?
    Time? This 10 sec longer Bossfight in a group who was already quicker then most other groups?
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  2. #592
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Dancer probably did this so you could get free tele into the boss arena to save time, which you promptly slaughtered them for. Heck is wrong with this community seriously? Hope they reported you and the healer. Maybe perhaps keep the short guy syndrome in check.
    And the players wonder why there are not enough tanks anymore. If someone want to pull in advance of the tank, for example set a dot on the boss, then you have to watch that the tank is also in the range of the boss.
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  3. #593
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Also, what did the DNC lose due to the death?
    His rotation? So should I now always do a 17sec CD as PLD in a dungeon so I can play my rotation correctly?
    Time? This 10 sec longer Bossfight in a group who was already quicker then most other groups?
    You should pull up your big boy shorts and tank the fricken boss as the roll you queued up as. It really really is not that complicated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    It was just the unusual situation of a dancer running first into a boss and attacking it while the tank was to far away to do anything, and I just let the situation play out and continued.
    Mmhmm. Too far away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    I move (without sprint due to cooldown) to the boss area, turn off tankstance and start my rotation and watch the DNC die.
    He also did not get healed, dies get rezzed and we continue as nothing happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loonies View Post
    And the players wonder why there are not enough tanks anymore. If someone want to pull in advance of the tank, for example set a dot on the boss, then you have to watch that the tank is also in the range of the boss.
    Tank was in range before dancer died. They deliberately de-activated the tank stance to pk the dancer. This is called you pull it you tank it and shall I remind thee;

    Under section - Obstructing Gameplay Using Combat

    Using and manipulating enmity-related actions in an effort to incapacitate other players or interfere with gameplay.

    Also

    Further along - Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior

    Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.

    Subsection - "I don't want to heal because there is a player I don't like in the group."

    Deliberately disabling tank stance or refusing to heal to pk fellow party members is not only petty and obnoxious as heck, it violates the tos. Do with this what you may.

    There are few players on the support roles because of attributing them as being high stress. Nothing at'all to do with someone pulling mobs or bosses.
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  4. #594
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    So you would prefer the version of a parallel world:
    "After grabbing the chest i auto- ran towards the boss and took a sip or two of my tea.
    After I placed down the cup to start the fight, i witnessed the Boss doing the final slap to kill the DNC."
    Same outcome.

    Also, pulling the boss when not everyone is at the arena gives the boss a advantage.
    Because they might not be prepared for mechanic and run into their death because they try to get in the arena on time.

    So I could also report the DNC for doing that.

    To repeat myself for a last time.
    It was a absurd and funny situation to see a dancer dashing and sprinting alone towards the boss, so i let him tank the boss for a while.

    If you don't like that, then feel free to report any person that is doing this towards you.
    When you have to report a lot of people for this, then it might be your gameplay that brings you in situation like that.
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  5. #595
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Dancer probably did this so you could get free tele into the boss arena to save time, which you promptly slaughtered them for. Heck is wrong with this community seriously? Hope they reported you and the healer. Maybe perhaps keep the short guy syndrome in check.
    lol idk I've had people dash way ahead to a boss alone whenever I went to get a chest or something. not a big deal tho just pop sprint and go, I don't let them die or anything like that. most people just.. wait.

    it's super petty to actively let them die, but it's also whatever lol. you're acting like he murdered in bright daylight, it's not that serious. you're spending more energy on this than the DNC likely getting slightly annoyed at dying tbh
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  6. #596
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    Did alliance raid roulette on NIN and got LoA.
    First room, 9 people die because all tanks run in but nobody had stance on and the mobs happily cleaved everyone. Good start, always nice to die to stance chicken.
    First boss and two alliances get completely nuked from several adds exploding at once because one tank kept voking the boss and pulling him centre, 3rd alliance survives by the skin of theit teeths, the tank pulls the boss away and they barely manage to kill it.
    Another 1/3 of the raid died on the Allagan Bombs when too many at once went through and went boom.
    Classic bait meteor half inside the hitbox on Behemoth, killing one whole alliance and then some.
    Several wipes on Phlegethon -- respecting mechanics when dps is definitely way too low to ignore them isn't an option.

    Alliance chat was ... colorful.
    It ranged from the classic "omg are you guys real?? just play the fucking mechanic ffs" to "my sch dps won't make a difference lmao" when the conversation turned to dps or rather lack of to "how about you DO something instead of typing??" "no how about YOU stop typing and actually contribute??".

    And they say CT raids are boring.
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  7. #597
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    So you would prefer the version of a parallel world:
    "After grabbing the chest i auto- ran towards the boss and took a sip or two of my tea.
    After I placed down the cup to start the fight, i witnessed the Boss doing the final slap to kill the DNC."
    Same outcome.
    Ugh. Nah I'm kinda done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    So I could also report the DNC for doing that.
    There it is! The veritable pièce de résistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    If you don't like that, then feel free to report any person that is doing this towards you.
    When you have to report a lot of people for this, then it might be your gameplay that brings you in situation like that.
    Ohhh I do, many thanks! I send a very very petty report while petily imagining them sitting in goal talking to the GM. In a manner most petty. Mmhmm! I do not pull for tanks but do not care if someone else does. I will heal them or provoke when it occurs then move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    it's super petty to actively let them die, but it's also whatever lol. you're acting like he murdered in bright daylight, it's not that serious. you're spending more energy on this than the DNC likely getting slightly annoyed at dying tbh
    I will spend my energy however the heck I want.

    You know what is funny and adds excitement to the run? Being the Red Mage in Castrum slogging through MSQ to assist friend. I am there doing Red Mage stuffs when suddenly my health is plummeting. Hmm, why the heck do I have aggro? I move to stand inside of the tanks body.. no healing, still have aggro. Alrighty then potions it is annnnd I am dead now. Amazing!

    Why did I experience demise there? Because the bunny tank decided to disable their tank stance and shirk me. Why did they shirk me you ask? Who the heck knows! Probably because the other healer pulled and I was blamed for this. Not much reason to randomly shirk the dps after all. So there I lay broken and battered awaiting a raise. Hmmm not being raised, ohhh lovely.

    Is so funny losing all of my gauge. Oh is so funny all the fan procs are gone. So funnnnny! Love eating floor as healer because dps pulled when I did nothing.

    So nah, would rather call out this kinda childish nonsense then enable it. Fricken annoying as heck. I am done with it though. Enough passive aggressive sent my way for one day. Could power whole fricken city if you bottled up FF14 player passive aggressiveness.

    You wanna defend ypyt, sure sure. Enjoy your time in goal into forced break. I cannot even.. why the heck do I bother.
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  8. #598
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    fat snip
    lmao chill, fair tho it's mind & ur energy

    like I said, I don't ypyt myself (I just don't care enough for it), I just go with the flow and whatever. if a healer/DPS annoyed me that bad I'd just consider eating the penalty lol. if someone reported me because they died due to an inconvenience they caused, whatever. funny though I don't have that problem because if I fall behind I just pop sprint lol. very clear that I'm not trying to let them die

    @ Castrum though that's just beyond silly. bunny dude took his bad day out on you.
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  9. #599
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    Did I miss another round of people refusing to do their jobs for petty ego reasons again? Dang.

    Happens when you're spending more time playing Elden Ring than dealing with the trash fire that the DF has become during patch lull, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    You wanna defend ypyt, sure sure. Enjoy your time in goal into forced break. I cannot even.. why the heck do I bother.
    Whenever DC travel opens, feel free to look me up, Mia. I'm always happy to run content with people who don't throw fits like children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    had a healer who flat out refused to dps because "it's meant for pvp, it's not even on my bar. my job is to heal"
    what

    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    with the party agreeing with the healer.
    what
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  10. #600
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Did I miss another round of people refusing to do their jobs for petty ego reasons again? Dang.

    Happens when you're spending more time playing Elden Ring than dealing with the trash fire that the DF has become during patch lull, I guess.



    Whenever DC travel opens, feel free to look me up, Mia. I'm always happy to run content with people who don't throw fits like children.
    LMAO I need to grab the screenshots (and edit them obviously) but FC membah had a healer who flat out refused to dps because "it's meant for pvp, it's not even on my bar. my job is to heal" with the party agreeing with the healer. We were in awe because this was a level 80 SHB dungeon lol. He ate the penalty after they struggled to clear the bosses. Believe it was Heroes Guantlet. There's a type for everyone
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