Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[MiaShino]

Why does no one seem to esuna stuff that can highly effect a tank's survivability? Got Pharos Sirius and of course got the defense down buff. Ended up using Hallowed Ground cause I almost died and most of the pack was still alive. I never see any healers cleanse this debuff. There's only two other debuffs one has a blue bar the other doesn't that I never see anyone unless it's me cleansing them do. These are misery which you need to use /cheer or /rally on the person and disease which the eye blob monsters in Tama-Tara Hard and a few other dungeons use. The both not only slow down the person not only in movement speed but skill speed and make it harder to heal them. There are a few other debuffs that are somewhat annoying that everyone seems to ignore but those three have always been ones that make me mentally go "Please get rid of this."

Know for myself personally I will not cleanse certain stuffs during 50 and pre-50 pulls of legends. Only exception is disease or accumulating poison stacks and stun. Especially for white mage with it only having one ogcd heal that is best used with tank invuln anyways. That one single gcd at that level I spend on esuna can and does kill people because having nearly all heals tied to the gcd stinks. Oh does it stink. Again for the white mage, that 400 mp per cleanse really begins to add up when only mp regen is from lucid. No thin air until post 50? Really chaffs my everything that does!

If the option is "remove this vuln up" or "stun the pack two more times with holy" I will keep spamming holy, half the time it dies before that debuff even would have been issue.

Would be much of the happier if people interjected Banish III because that causes 90% of wipes during big pulls in that dungeon. No really everyone, Banish III doth not mess around.

Exceptions of course made for Sludge - Burns - Windburns - Dropsy - Freeze because those are big ouch. Obviously Doom gets the Esuna or anything like it.

More healers may Esuna if it were ogcd or we had group Esuna, hate the way that skill works. No clue what is with every mmo and not giving group cleanse. Oh well! At the least it gives weave window on White Mage during pulls...

Other honorable mentions for screw this I am doing deeps are certain slows (some enemies use arms length) because you will keep getting it over and over by hitting the target. Then there is the vuln up in Dismal Darkhold that is instantly re-applied every gcd by the tiny squidy enemies.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

More healers may Esuna if it were ogcd or we had group Esuna

We had a group Esuna. Her name is Selene. Unfortunately now she's just a fashion choice. The skill was random but it was beastly when she did it. Imagine the whole party (withing cast range) cleansed at once.

[HyoMinPark]

Thank the twelve that you don't run roulettes often or when you do that you don't get Dun Scaith. The ever self perpetuating circle of screw this I'm leaving because no one knows the fights because people don't stay to learn the fights. And or try and teach. And no I'm not talking about the death puddle that people don't keep on running from after the 1st pull in, but the 2 Esuna-able dooms the boss puts on random people in each party. Yes, I know old content. Not Esuna-able but any time I get SoS I worry about the opening few seconds to see if the healers realize wtf Elidibus inflicts on the party that drops the entire party's health to one. Cause I still remember the one run where for some reason most stayed after the 5th wipe thar was caused by his True living dead attack. 1st 3 were from not healing everyone to full and the other two were somehow not healing the tanks to full. This was late ShB so it wasn't a "everyone and their video game playing dog" was new type situation.

I mean, when I’m in any content with a Doom-type mechanic—be it Wanderer’s Palace (Hard), Dun Scaith, Exdeath NM, Orbonne, SoS, or Dead Ends—I will educate about the Doom mechanic since it’s actually the most important when it comes to cleansing. There can be some blame on the devs for Doom, since they have the same debuff implemented but with different ways of handling it. Players that never have to deal with the mechanic might take a minute to remember how to handle each one—but it doesn’t stop me from educating them.

For other DoTs like poisons, electrocutions, burns, or even Misery or Disease, they are so inconsequential most of the time, healers often opt for letting already ticking HoTs take care of them versus cleansing. Aside from the fact that sometimes the DoTs aren’t even cleansable, so they just don’t bother all around. The blue bar thing was implemented a while ago, but the game never actually explains the difference between debuffs marked with a bar and debuffs not marked. That’s a design flaw, and I think should be addressed in some shape or form. I only learned about the blue bar because I read Patch Notes, but not everyone does.

I usually just use HoTs for damage over time things. The HoTs are more than enough to take care of them versus me individually Esuna-ing them off. The only ones I actively Esuna off are slows, silences, and sometimes the vulnerability up ones IF my healing isn’t overpowered enough to basically negate it. And I will always take care of Dooms. But sometimes, Esuna isn’t even a necessary button press. People just need to learn which items are necessary to cleanse, and which ones they can actively cheese.
Maybe sometimes I will be petty and not Esuna silences or slows if the person who has one has been a royal pain in my butt the entire run. If I get a cohealer that leaves cleansing and healing entirely up to me, then I might just let them keep that Silence or Slow for a little bit should they get one.

[MiaShino]

We had a group Esuna. Her name is Selene. Unfortunately now she's just a fashion choice. The skill was random but it was beastly when she did it. Imagine the whole party (withing cast range) cleansed at once.

Maaahhh! I had almost forgotten to remember the fay were once different! Would kill to have this back... Aion did it too, took away group cleanse from healers.

[ThivraK]

short one: tank in mt gulg turning off stance and saying something along the lines of "it'll be like that then" when my friend aggro'd mobs a few meters beyond where the tank had dragged the first pack, then turning their stance on again after like 10 seconds once they realized that they weren't dying and I wasn't the type of healer that enables this kind of childish tantrum, with the lie of 'accidentally pressing stance' thrown out
I saw you stand there and do nothing after you turned it off, typing the sentence out, that was no accident, you baby

[Shibi]

...tank in mt gulg turning off stance and saying something along the lines of "it'll be like that then" when my friend aggro'd mobs a few meters beyond...

That's one of the times being a SGE healer is awesome, one oGCD and the Kardia is over on the DPS. That's usually enough to kick most tanks back into stance.

[Cincierta]

Yesterday during MSQ rou in Meri I learned that pilk (pepsi and milk) is a thing while on my alt.

Never change MSQ roulette, never change.

[Absimiliard]

pilk (pepsi and milk) is a thing

I... what? I'm not even sure how to parse this, but I do know it's a valid reason to resort to violence.

[Cincierta]

I... what? I'm not even sure how to parse this, but I do know it's a valid reason to resort to violence.

I don't know either only that the people in my party were talking about how it's a thing and people should drink it. I'm...not sure if it's even viable myself.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I have been reminded that the only way to get out of Hades's chains during the ATE is to button mash. He does not recognize safe words.