Looking back at this Yoshi P statement(story spoilers)

[KizuyaKatogami]

No, they do not give in to despair. As far as I remember in Shadowbringers, Alisaie's reaction to Tesleen's death (I assume that's what you're talking about?) is not giving in. She's affected. She mourns. But she doesn't seize up and stop; she channels that sadness into resolve and is determined to fight so that nobody else suffers a similar fate.

And that's what I see in the story for all the Scions. They've been through the Seventh Calamity, seen the destruction in its aftermath, lost people they cared about, worked to rebuild their lives, undergone new struggles through the course of the story as we've seen it. G'raha has travelled from one world ruined by the Eighth Calamity to one nearly obliterated by the Flood, and seen uncountable things over a long life. I don't need to see them list off their past tragedies or undergo fresh suffering in every expansion to know that they've been through a lot.

Moenbryda might be the only death directly touched on, but we know there are so many more that affect one or many of the Scions. The group we have now is shaped by the previous deaths of some of their core members and longtime companions.

If you choose to overlook all this and stick to the insistence that they never suffer, then I really can't say anything to convince you otherwise, but I think it's clearly what the writers want you to see in the story. And if you reject it and don't see it as a valid plot point, then you are going to be permanently dissatisfied with every part of the presentation.

Well its like yoshi p himself says, you cannot expect a story that deals with war and strife to not have losses on both sides. For about 6 years now, the story has been completely one sided. Yoshi P even admits this. Is just not realistic at all for the main cast to always come out on top with - scars and nothing to show for it. Death baiting and fakeout deaths dont help either.

As for Alisaie, i actually meant when she has her mental breakdown in Shb over the WoL. Dont remember the exact quote but something along the lines of "We searched high and low for an answer! And every one of us came up short!" She was losing it a bit at that point. It would have made the scions feel far more real had some of them actually almost gave in to their despair but had their allies to point them towards the right path. As it is right now they all feel extremely privileged compared to the other characters we see like Jullus or those garlean people we meet that the twins get killed. They suffered far more than any of the scions did and yet theyre going to try and preach it to me? Im sorry but i wont accept that. When nothing has happed for 6+ years and they keep having to show deaths from those 6+ years ago because nothing else substantial like that has happened for this long...its incredibly cringy and just outright sad.

[Iscah]

Well its like yoshi p himself says, you cannot expect a story that deals with war and strife to not have losses on both sides. For about 6 years now, the story has been completely one sided. Yoshi P even admits this. Is just not realistic at all for the main cast to always come out on top with - scars and nothing to show for it. Death baiting and fakeout deaths dont help either.

There are losses on both sides, even if it's not the specific heroes who die. I think they come out of it with a lot of emotional scars rather than physical ones.

I don't need to see the Scions die to be quite horrified by everything we see happen in Endwalker. Innocent people killed or turned into monsters, perhaps their very souls erased... it doesn't need to happen to a major character to drive me, and I think the same goes for the Scions themselves. They see other people suffer, and that is emotional suffering for them even if they come out of it physically unscathed.

And I just see it as a natural part of a narrative that characters will be in brief moments of peril and most of the time will get through it. I don't actually remember that many fake death moments. Are you comparing to teased deaths in trailers? I never watch trailers exactly because - across all media - they like to dramatically tease plot points that aren't really a big deal in the end. So maybe they don't compute as baiting to me anyway.

As for Alisaie, i actually meant when she has her mental breakdown in Shb over the WoL. Dont remember the exact quote but something along the lines of "We searched high and low for an answer! And every one of us came up short!" She was losing it a bit at that point. It would have made the scions feel far more real had some of them actually almost gave in to their despair but had their allies to point them towards the right path.

As I remember that, her outburst was frustration at Ryne making promises they had no way of keeping. Not really anything to do with despair, beyond that all of them were feeling like they'd exhausted all options for finding a cure.

As it is right now they all feel extremely privileged compared to the other characters we see like Jullus or those garlean people we meet that the twins get killed. They suffered far more than any of the scions did and yet theyre going to try and preach it to me? Im sorry but i wont accept that. When nothing has happed for 6+ years and they keep having to show deaths from those 6+ years ago because nothing else substantial like that has happened for this long...its incredibly cringy and just outright sad.

As I've already said, I don't see that balance of "one has suffered and the other has not". At this point Alphinaud has spent a year living in Kholusia and trying to help the people of Gatetown. Alisaie has been working at the Inn at Journey's Head, seen not only Tesleen's death but so many others. Both have been in hard places experiencing struggle. They've come out of it without physical wounds, but so has Jullus, and I don't see the point in weighing up one against the other.

Ultimately, they're the main characters of the story so far, and the finale is going to revolve around them.