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    Something to take into consideration; how well does your internet connection and computer/console handle the game? I used to have all kinds of issues with mechanics and timing, then I stopped playing on Playstation3 (been playing a long time, am still "casual") over WiFi and realized I was seeing everything on a delay.
    Just something to keep in mind.

    Another small change you can make is to rearrange your HUD so that you can keep your eye on the important information. How far your eyes have to travel across the screen can make a difference. So play with your options, and don't give up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohl View Post
    Something to take into consideration; how well does your internet connection and computer/console handle the game? I used to have all kinds of issues with mechanics and timing, then I stopped playing on Playstation3 (been playing a long time, am still "casual") over WiFi and realized I was seeing everything on a delay.
    Just something to keep in mind.

    Another small change you can make is to rearrange your HUD so that you can keep your eye on the important information. How far your eyes have to travel across the screen can make a difference. So play with your options, and don't give up!
    That's an interesting point actually - was discussing this with some friends earlier, one the UK (same as me) and one in Australia. The conversation was basically this:
    "need to consider that we're playing on a NA server with relatively high ping and I know I have died loads of times when I can clearly see I am out of the area of effect but the high ping has skewed things…… that makes it harder".

    Certainly makes sense, and the login screen does sometimes show my connection as being 'Poor'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    That's an interesting point actually - was discussing this with some friends earlier, one the UK (same as me) and one in Australia. The conversation was basically this:
    "need to consider that we're playing on a NA server with relatively high ping and I know I have died loads of times when I can clearly see I am out of the area of effect but the high ping has skewed things…… that makes it harder".

    Certainly makes sense, and the login screen does sometimes show my connection as being 'Poor'.
    I'm in the US and play on a JP server. I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me. You'll get used to how and when to move, but will still get caught regularly. You just have to be forgiving of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    Keep in mind the people who post on the forum are more of the hardcore elite. The problem the developers have is they sort of have to ignore the loudest voice which is them because if they listened to them there would be no ARR and FFXIV 1.0 would of been good enough.

    Think of most of the hardcore elite as people who like BDSM they like pain and get pleasure from it. In the gaming world they refer to this pleasure as accomplishment. Every time they get whipped its like them in game uttering, "Oh yes give me more accomplishment"

    They do not understand basic facts why people like New Game + even though you gain no XP. In fact there has been topics with them utterly confused by this because they do not understand playing a game for the story and not getting an 'accomplishment.'

    Even after FFXIV failed they the hardcore elite/minority felt the game was still easy. Keep in mind in FFXIV 1.0 if you played more then five hours a week you could not gain XP but you could lose XP and delevel. Pretty much the hardcore elite are sadists. Don't try to understand them.
    That whole rant is one of the dumbest things I have read on these forums since the last time you posted it. If you don't have any input on how to assist post the crap some where else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    That's an interesting point actually - was discussing this with some friends earlier, one the UK (same as me) and one in Australia. The conversation was basically this:
    "need to consider that we're playing on a NA server with relatively high ping and I know I have died loads of times when I can clearly see I am out of the area of effect but the high ping has skewed things…… that makes it harder".

    Certainly makes sense, and the login screen does sometimes show my connection as being 'Poor'.
    This is possibly a large root of your problems, with high ping you are going to have to know scripted mechanics a lot more because you will have to react to them quicker than most players. For anything with random mechcanics good luck it will be pain. Your class is also going to feel wonky, as a bard you will do a lot of weaving and with high ping that becomes more troublesome. I would avoid Skill Speed stat all together because it will make weaving even more troublesome.

    Taking time to set up keybinds and practicing on a dummy to develop better muscle memory will be a key component to improving as well specially if you are some one that has to look at there skill bar a lot. Way back in ARR and HW I took a lot of time to set up my keybinds the way I feel most comfortable and it took a good amount of time. Once this is done though it can be applied to almost every class as they all have a similar tool set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    That whole rant is one of the dumbest things I have read on these forums since the last time you posted it. If you don't have any input on how to assist post the crap some where else.
    I wasn't really sure what he was saying either; While I play the game a LOT, I'm the least hardcore regarding content/accomplishments.

    I haven't done a single "Savage" thing; I barely touch any "endgame" raid except to do the story once; I haven't done PotD/HoH except in passing; The Endgame Relic stuff like Bozja or Eureka I've maybe done..like.. 1/2?

    You could say I'm "hardcore" as far as playtime and leveling all my jobs goes.. but actual "accomplishments" of difficult content...? not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I wasn't really sure what he was saying either; While I play the game a LOT, I'm the least hardcore regarding content/accomplishments.

    I haven't done a single "Savage" thing; I barely touch any "endgame" raid except to do the story once; I haven't done PotD/HoH except in passing; The Endgame Relic stuff like Bozja or Eureka I've maybe done..like.. 1/2?

    You could say I'm "hardcore" as far as playtime and leveling all my jobs goes.. but actual "accomplishments" of difficult content...? not really.
    There are people that play this game that believe it is essentially hardcore raiders vs casual players. You see this mostly from the casual player base this idea that there should be no challenging content and everything should be designed around only casual play. These are typically your players that will throw out terms such as elitest, elite, gate keeping, toxicity, and minority/majority claims ect. They are also the people that will shut down feedback or criticism to claim the game is perfect the way it is and if you don't like it go unsub. Really just terrible people in general. Is what these people do not realize is like the world it takes different types of players to make the game function right. The idea of the casual vs hardcore is nothing more than ignorance and both types of content and players should exist to maintain a healthy online player base.

    His whole claim is that the dev team has to filter the majority which according to him "the hardcore elite" is majority of the player base when in fact it makes maybe 15% - 20% of the total player base if you look at the rate of savage content clears and participation. In a nut shell it is best to just ignore him like a homeless person begging for change everyday at the corner and trying to tell you wild conspiracy theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    There are people that play this game that believe it is essentially hardcore raiders vs casual players. You see this mostly from the casual player base this idea that there should be no challenging content and everything should be designed around only casual play. These are typically your players that will throw out terms such as elitest, elite, gate keeping, toxicity, and minority/majority claims ect. They are also the people that will shut down feedback or criticism to claim the game is perfect the way it is and if you don't like it go unsub. Really just terrible people in general. Is what these people do not realize is like the world it takes different types of players to make the game function right. The idea of the casual vs hardcore is nothing more than ignorance and both types of content and players should exist to maintain a healthy online player base.

    His whole claim is that the dev team has to filter the majority which according to him "the hardcore elite" is majority of the player base when in fact it makes maybe 15% - 20% of the total player base if you look at the rate of savage content clears and participation. In a nut shell it is best to just ignore him like a homeless person begging for change everyday at the corner and trying to tell you wild conspiracy theories.
    What MMORPG that is made for you people in the past three years or five years or even ten years that was made for you people is still one of the most top played games today?

    Games made for you people do not sell well at all. In fact FF11 was lucky because it had a brand name and came about before WoW success. Sadly though that is what killed FFXIV 1.0 when they tried to make the game again for you people and they had to completely shut it down and make a new game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    What MMORPG that is made for you people in the past three years or five years or even ten years that was made for you people is still one of the most top played games today?

    Games made for you people do not sell well at all. In fact FF11 was lucky because it had a brand name and came about before WoW success. Sadly though that is what killed FFXIV 1.0 when they tried to make the game again for you people and they had to completely shut it down and make a new game.
    What the hell... show me where on the doll the "hardcore raiders" hurt you man.

    That is an extremely silly argument to make because the MMORPG market hasn't been successful AT ALL in the last 10 years. What MMORPG that is made for "you people" in the past three years or five years or even ten years that was made for "you people" is still one of the top played games today? Maple Story? Club Penguin? Second life?

    Games that are made for only one type of person don't sell well at all. You need to have hardcore/difficult content for people that want to challenge themselves as well as casual content to keep casuals around. You also, need to be lucky. That's the only way you have a game that sells well at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    That's an interesting point actually - was discussing this with some friends earlier, one the UK (same as me) and one in Australia. The conversation was basically this:
    "need to consider that we're playing on a NA server with relatively high ping and I know I have died loads of times when I can clearly see I am out of the area of effect but the high ping has skewed things…… that makes it harder".

    Certainly makes sense, and the login screen does sometimes show my connection as being 'Poor'.
    Definitely then, you are not bad at the game, your connection/processing levels are handicapping you. Once you improve those you may find it similar to taking weights off your ankles and realizing you are faster than you thought!
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