Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
This isn't a buff though? Holmgang has an odd holdover where it requires a target only if you have a target selected. If you de-select the game then takes a second to realize that before allowing you to use it freely again. Compare that to literally every other CD in the game that activates immediately without the need of a target whatsoever.

What adjustments do GNB and PLD need? HoC is actually better than Bloodwhetting in 8 man content. And all PLD needs at this point is higher damage output; something WAR also needs. DRK is the only tank with gameplay relayed jank that should be sorted out first.
I'm 90% sure Hierro was being sarcastic, as Holmgang has been considered the most attractive invuln, and Warrior the most reliably supported (and defensively stacked) tank since 4.1.

The "adjustments GNB and PLD need" are probably aimed at their invulns. Superbolide has almost no advantage over Holmgang, given how few debuffs can be prevented via invincibility, but has a longer cooldown. The penalty-less invincibility of Hallowed Ground, meanwhile, is usually considered worth less than the shorter cooldown of Holmgang. And then there's DRK.