A thought of inviduality to jobs

[Nekokaori]

Now before you go on "there will be a meta" to this stop that thought, id rather there be a meta than being given no options, atleast with a meta i can decide to tell ppl to screw themself and build the way i want like in d2.


So my thought is simple let every class/job pick from the blue mage spells they learn, up to 3 abilitys to use. This would allow for the jobs to be intresting adding fun to all equally, and allow us to have some fun experimenting, and creating an invidual of said job than everyone being the same

[Vahlnir]

So you want them to have individuality, but you want them all to choose from the same spells? Granted there's a lot of spells to choose from, but this just doesn't seem like it would accomplish what you want it to. Everyone will end up using the same 1-3 abilities once they figure out which are most beneficial. There will always be a meta.

[IckeDerTyp]

That is what the game used to be basically, I liked the idea of having cross-class skills but alas, that system went bye bye and I doubt we'll see anything like it again ^^

I am in favour tho!

[DPZ2]

If you expect Blue Mage spells to work the same on a real job, you will be greatly disappointed. Its why Blue Mage is a 'limited' job that cannot join random duty finder parties. The spells are, well, a bit overpowered.

[ReynTime]

Every game with any kind of build, gear, skill and character choice will have a "meta" for specific goals. Thankfully that doesn't stop them from continuing to be made.
XIV community just happens to be extremely unhealthy obsessed with META even if 99% of them would never be in condition to race for world first and for literally any other purpose as far as raiding goes it doesn't matter.

This won't change. It's ingrained in this community's culture and enabled by the developers.

[LittleImp]

Now before you go on "there will be a meta" to this stop that thought, id rather there be a meta than being given no options, atleast with a meta i can decide to tell ppl to screw themself and build the way i want like in d2.

You can tell them to go screw themselves all you want, but you would still end up getting kicked or barred from high-end content if you refuse to bring optimal skills. In high-end content, people would be forced into using specific skills that may not even match the identity of their job.

Also, if you are doing clears during competition mode on D2, people will also totally kick you or ask you to leave if you don't have access to certain exotics, mods or refuse to run certain subclasses. Outside of competition mode's 24 hour window and GMs, everything is so under-tuned on that game that it simply doesn't matter. Savage/Ultimate remains difficult for more than 24 hours, so the metas importance would be close to permanent.

[RobynDaBank]

There will always be a meta, some way, some how. Even BLU has its own meta depending on the content (group or solo). I mean, can't you tell people to screw it even now? Just maining the Job you want? Just 3 skills from a vast pool of options will lead many to hunt for the best choices anyway.

Thing with "customizable" builds is that, sure, you can have fun with what you build. But it won't be enough to get a kill a minute early. Or it won't be enough to get a kill at all. I've no clue about Diablo 2 but in Diablo 3, if your build and set isn't among the S-Tier, good luck getting past 120 Greater Rift or something. Some builds were just hard-locked from better potential.

[Deveryn]

BLU has these options, but people will always go for the same builds, even if it's to their detriment.

There's plenty of individuality in the jobs as they are, not just in skills but how they play.

[Nekokaori]

So you want them to have individuality, but you want them all to choose from the same spells? Granted there's a lot of spells to choose from, but this just doesn't seem like it would accomplish what you want it to. Everyone will end up using the same 1-3 abilities once they figure out which are most beneficial. There will always be a meta.

just because there are sheep who follows a meta isnt rlly an excuse ive always done my own build on games that have "metas" and guess what on diablo 2 i destory everyone with a spear amazon and guess what the meta for amazon is lightig jav or bowzons lol

but the way around it is simple let us make our own 3 combo set

for example badbreath-aqua breath and idk maybe an other breath like northrend for breather combo lol


also editing in: But U can humilate meta players very easily if u build around ur combat style no matter what the numbers are.. and just cuz sheep kick out doesnt mean u cant make ur own group and clear quicker than them then rub it in their face lol

[Vahlnir]

just because there are sheep who follows a meta isnt rlly an excuse ive always done my own build on games that have "metas" and guess what on diablo 2 i destory everyone with a spear amazon and guess what the meta for amazon is lightig jav or bowzons lol

But it still wouldn't accomplish what you want it to. Doesn't really matter how you feel about it.