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  1. #471
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    Petty story incoming but whatever.

    Last night I queued for Qitana Ravel because I'm trying to collect glams on my Dancer. Paired with another Dancer who was level 85 (mine was 79).

    Dancer has about a 20% uptime on their Standard Step. Didn't use Technical Step at all or Devilment. Didn't use Samba or Curing to help with heals.
    Tank Wall-Pulled and the other dancer used single-target skills only from far away even though there were 6 to 9 mobs to hit.

    Aiming Glam drops (hat) - yeah that Dancer won it.

    End of the run they said "Thanks so much! Had fun!" I just laughed, as I was feeling so petty and annoyed the entire run, especially after the glam loss, but seems like they had a lot of fun so no harm no foul end of the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Petty story incoming but whatever.

    Last night I queued for Qitana Ravel because I'm trying to collect glams on my Dancer. Paired with another Dancer who was level 85 (mine was 79).

    Dancer has about a 20% uptime on their Standard Step. Didn't use Technical Step at all or Devilment. Didn't use Samba or Curing to help with heals.
    Tank Wall-Pulled and the other dancer used single-target skills only from far away even though there were 6 to 9 mobs to hit.

    Aiming Glam drops (hat) - yeah that Dancer won it.

    End of the run they said "Thanks so much! Had fun!" I just laughed, as I was feeling so petty and annoyed the entire run, especially after the glam loss, but seems like they had a lot of fun so no harm no foul end of the day
    I've seen these types of things a lot lately. And as a DNC main, it hurts. Especially when they don't use Dance Partner until 2nd group of mobs, if not later, and let Standard Step fall off all the time.
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  3. #473
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I've seen these types of things a lot lately. And as a DNC main, it hurts. Especially when they don't use Dance Partner until 2nd group of mobs, if not later, and let Standard Step fall off all the time.
    Haha yeah I got Partnered after the first pull, which could have been worse.
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  4. #474
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I've seen these types of things a lot lately. And as a DNC main, it hurts. Especially when they don't use Dance Partner until 2nd group of mobs, if not later, and let Standard Step fall off all the time.
    I've been playing DNC a lot lately, I can 100000% tell you that if I partner up late, it's because I forgot lol. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case when you come across a DNC like that.

    As for standard step, idk about that. Sometimes I forget to get it back up before it falls off, but it's usually never more than like 2 seconds before putting it back on unless I'm exhausted af or something and just not thinking about it.
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  5. #475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    I've been playing DNC a lot lately, I can 100000% tell you that if I partner up late, it's because I forgot lol. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case when you come across a DNC like that.

    As for standard step, idk about that. Sometimes I forget to get it back up before it falls off, but it's usually never more than like 2 seconds before putting it back on unless I'm exhausted af or something and just not thinking about it.
    You should be using SS on CD for it's 720 potency every 30 sec, especially since it takes the slightly less time than the 500 potency from 2 other skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    You should be using SS on CD for it's 720 potency every 30 sec, especially since it takes the slightly less time than the 500 potency from 2 other skills.
    I've been pretty good at keeping it up lately I just struggle to remember at times, but, that's just always been a me problem (I've always been a forgetful sort of person, oop).
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  7. #477
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    You should be using SS on CD for it's 720 potency every 30 sec, especially since it takes the slightly less time than the 500 potency from 2 other skills.
    Had a question for you about this as a future Dancer Alt (maybe even main?) I saw in the past Standard Step's potency was higher than it is today.

    How many GCDs does it take to get the 720 potency? Is it 1. Standard Step. 2. Dance. 3. Dance. 4. 720 Potency with AE?

    I wasn't sure if I should be casting this every 30 seconds due to the number of GCDs it takes. I'm pretty sure once I hit Standard, I have a GCD Cooldown before Dance 1, and another for Dance 2. I need to pay more attention if I can Finish immediately or if I have another GCD. But if it's 4 GCDs, would it be better to fish for Fan Dance procs instead of reapplying immediately?
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    Joined a PF map party: "all level maps; FFA we will provide maps"

    We worked on some gazelle maps. I lopen one myself, despite the suggestion that I don't need to. I looted a thief map. Party lead is asking me to open while I still have a gazelle going. We run my gazelle and get all the way to the end of the dungeon, securing two more thief maps (one went to the party lead, the other went elsewhere). Overall, I came out with nothing from my own map. We finish up and exit. The party lead still wants me to open my thief map. I say I'd like to take a break and let someone else run theirs.

    This drags on and gets blown out of proportion and I end up getting kicked.

    I'm curious about the general etiquette on thief map loots. There was no specification that they belong to the group and nothing was said at the start. I have a small stack from runs I did with friends. On this and a number of other occasions, my good fortune blesses people with a full run and a tick towards achievement with plenty of loot and it just feels greedy to ask for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Had a question for you about this as a future Dancer Alt (maybe even main?) I saw in the past Standard Step's potency was higher than it is today.

    How many GCDs does it take to get the 720 potency? Is it 1. Standard Step. 2. Dance. 3. Dance. 4. 720 Potency with AE?

    I wasn't sure if I should be casting this every 30 seconds due to the number of GCDs it takes. I'm pretty sure once I hit Standard, I have a GCD Cooldown before Dance 1, and another for Dance 2. I need to pay more attention if I can Finish immediately or if I have another GCD. But if it's 4 GCDs, would it be better to fish for Fan Dance procs instead of reapplying immediately?
    The Standard Step takes regular GCD when activated, then the actual Steps are 1 sec each, with the Standard Finish being 1.5, so total of 5 sec, or 2 GCD, to get the 720.
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  10. #480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    The Standard Step takes regular GCD when activated, then the actual Steps are 1 sec each, with the Standard Finish being 1.5, so total of 5 sec, or 2 GCD, to get the 720.
    Thank you! That explains a lot! I just know I watch the countdown between steps but never timed it as being 1 second.
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