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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I agree with this but not with trading. Shouldn't ban people from being able to trade things with friends on other servers.
    Yeah, Nah.

    Gil farmer makes cheap gear on XYZ server, travels to ABC server on another data centre and trades cheap gear to his level 15 alt who swamps that server with it for 1 gil less. Same thing other direction.

    Still a hard no on paid DC travel, it makes 2 classes of people.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 03-14-2022 at 09:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yeah, Nah.

    Gil farmer makes cheap gear on XYZ server, travels to ABC server on another data centre and trades cheap gear to his level 15 alt who swamps that server with it for 1 gil less. Same thing other direction.

    Still a hard no on paid DC travel, it makes 2 classes of people.
    We ALREADY have paid DC travel be honest, 20USD you can move everything from one DC to another. What I am asking is more less the same without also moving your house and FC.

    So the problem is what's an adequate amount and meanwhile I do think it is an experimental way for people in different region get at least certain level of interaction, while no bringing the culture conflict.
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Gil farmer makes cheap gear on XYZ server, travels to ABC server on another data centre and trades cheap gear to his level 15 alt who swamps that server with it for 1 gil less. Same thing other direction.
    I'm having trouble seeing how this works. You can't actually trade with your alt unless it's on a different account. Is gil so hard to come by that someone would go to the trouble of getting a second account to game the system? I don't even make a concerted effort to farm it, and I seem to have more gil than I'll ever conceivably spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Is gil so hard to come by that someone would go to the trouble of getting a second account to game the system?
    Yes, it happens all the time; RMT people have tons of accounts and alts. I don't know for certain if it's RMT related or not, but a small group of people with a huge number of alts and a million retainers have de facto control of the market on Atomos. The prices they charge are low enough to ensure regular players don't make much of a profit on crafted goods while the cartel rakes in the money. It's hit the point where it's more profitable to sell [them] raw materials than it is to sell finished goods.

    Intra-DC travel with the ability to purchase from all market boards on a DC causes enough issues. We don't need the ability to interact with another DC's economy.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Intra-DC travel with the ability to purchase from all market boards on a DC causes enough issues. We don't need the ability to interact with another DC's economy.
    I see it otherwise. More DCs = more competition and propably lower prices for the raw materials. Market work better when there is competition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Yes, it happens all the time; RMT people have tons of accounts and alts. I don't know for certain if it's RMT related or not, but a small group of people with a huge number of alts and a million retainers have de facto control of the market on Atomos. The prices they charge are low enough to ensure regular players don't make much of a profit on crafted goods while the cartel rakes in the money. It's hit the point where it's more profitable to sell [them] raw materials than it is to sell finished goods.

    Intra-DC travel with the ability to purchase from all market boards on a DC causes enough issues. We don't need the ability to interact with another DC's economy.
    Don't agree, larger market doesn't equal to larger rmt group. While producer and consumer both growth there won't be big difference as before. Moreover it actually protect the consumer (majority) from oligarch jacking up the price. Intra DC travel already stabilize the price a lot, and cross DC will just do more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Intra-DC travel with the ability to purchase from all market boards on a DC causes enough issues. We don't need the ability to interact with another DC's economy.
    Most people are too lazy to visit another world or are even unaware that they can visit another world, nevermind DC travel. Even if it affects the economies a bit, the benefits of region travel outweigh these concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Most people are too lazy to visit another world or are even unaware that they can visit another world, nevermind DC travel. Even if it affects the economies a bit, the benefits of region travel outweigh these concerns.
    Indeed I think it help stabilize the market, dilute the influence of single bot who are affecting the market price.
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