The Botridden Land, Eureka Pyros

[KageTokage]

I'm not even remotely surprised this activity is spiking on Materia because being a fresh DC, the RMTers know there's going to be a stronger market and are trying to take advantage of it.

It really isn't just a matter of banning the farmers, though. They need to crack down on the methods being used to traffic the gil so people won't buy it in the first place.

[Raoabolic]

They need to crack down on the methods being used to traffic the gil so people won't buy it in the first place.

But then how will SE double dip in game sales and level/story jump potions? Won't anyone think of the company!?

[Geruu]

I know you're frustrated but you shouldn't put their character names on blast like that, it's just a good way for you yourself to get in trouble.

Why's that if I may ask? it's literally just bots, no actual players character names other than my own are visible so I don't really see why exposing them would bring trouble- they are already the issue that needs to be exposed and brought to light anyway :|

[Liam_Harper]

Why's that if I may ask? it's literally just bots, no actual players character names other than my own are visible so I don't really see why exposing them would bring trouble- they are already the issue that needs to be exposed and brought to light anyway :|

The mods won't see it that way. As long as you don't have definite proof they're all bots in there, there's a chance you're shaming a legitimate player as a bot and they'll crack down on it.

No point in arguing. We don't disagree. It's just friendly advice because your thread may be wiped and the issue will go unaddressed.

[Padudu]

Why's that if I may ask? it's literally just bots, no actual players character names other than my own are visible so I don't really see why exposing them would bring trouble- they are already the issue that needs to be exposed and brought to light anyway :|

Name & shame is against the rules so it will get taken down regardless if it's bots or not. I think one way to do it is just color code it: block out the bots names in a different color so that way the thread doesn't get deleted and we still see the point from the screenshot

[Geruu]

The mods won't see it that way. As long as you don't have definite proof they're all bots in there, there's a chance you're shaming a legitimate player as a bot and they'll crack down on it.

No point in arguing. We don't disagree. It's just friendly advice because your thread may be wiped and the issue will go unaddressed.

Ooh okay! I didn't really take it as anything other than it being friendly advice, i'm just quite new to the forums and don't know yet what is 100% bad (or why it can be seen as bad) although I'm not entirely sure how a screenshot of the player names on the list would be shaming? Is it cause of the implication of like "ah the person has been doing nothing other than this so they must be a bot"?

(all genuine questions, hope I'm being able to convey them that way)

[KageTokage]

The moderation teams operate under an "innocent until proven guilty" policy so implicating anyone with a ToS violation is a no-no and tends to get topics removed.

I think the best way to prove botting activty is with actual footage that has player names disabled so you can demonstrate the suspect behavior as botting tends to be extremely easy to discern going off of movement patterns alone.

[Geruu]

Oh, well can't say it doesn't make sense, I'll try to catch some of them at another point in time in video instead and with names disabled then!
And yeah absolutely, that weird sort of stuttering walk along with honestly everything else in their movement pattern is (thankfully) a big tell.

I'll go and edit the post to remove the image then since the main thing the image was pointing out is the name and amount of bots so it feels like there's no point in it being there if the names are not allowed, thanks for explaining it!

[CandyTicklefingers]

This morning, I've noticed another player that I felt wasn't botting previously, in their botting this morning . I guess their is no end too this, I had thought if SE didn't remove the bots it would embolden others, and it seems it already has. Seeing how many people are noticing the bot problem, it's weird too see SE leave them. You can't even report them, they just direct you too the forums, or the special task force, and then nothing happens. But they claim the special task force is the right way too go, until they decide forums are

[Jojoya]

This morning, I've noticed another player that I felt wasn't botting previously, in their botting this morning . I guess their is no end too this, I had thought if SE didn't remove the bots it would embolden others, and it seems it already has. Seeing how many people are noticing the bot problem, it's weird too see SE leave them. You can't even report them, they just direct you too the forums, or the special task force, and then nothing happens. But they claim the special task force is the right way too go, until they decide forums are

To report a bot, contacting the STF through the website link is the way to go.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/c...382&la=1&fty=2 (bottom of the page)

The forums would be for discussing the botting issue in general and suggestions, like making it easier to report bot activity from within the game instead of having to switch to a browser app to make the report, which would potentially leave out valuable information.