What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Rulakir]

I associate "adventures" with having to check in with Momodi or the Levemete guy so they can tell me who needs a new chore completed. Hard to get hype for what gives me ARR 2.0 vibes but as so many have already said, we shall see.

Same. I'm dreading a potential slow burning, world/story building 'arc' similar to ARR because I hated ARR. Combined with being disappointed with EW, I need something more.

Currently watching my favorite streamer who has just started EW and I'm genuinely curious what he'll think by the end.

Is it Preach? I'm curious what he's going to say. I've been occasionally checking in on Pyromancer. I don't like watching him, but as a lore guy (and Emet fan) I want to see what his reaction is to Elpis and Venat. The problem with streamers is they're paid to entertain and griping about the story isn't going to amass an audience, especially in this community. Having said that, Zepla's reactions during her playthrough were almost identical to mine. She was pissed off at the end of Elpis, cried when Emet & Hythlodaeus showed up in Ultima Thule, and commented about the writers not being done twisting the knife.

[PawPaw]

Is it Preach? I'm curious what he's going to say. I've been occasionally checking in on Pyromancer. I don't like watching him, but as a lore guy (and Emet fan) I want to see what his reaction is to Elpis and Venat. The problem with streamers is they're paid to entertain and griping about the story isn't going to amass an audience, especially in this community. Having said that, Zepla's reactions during her playthrough were almost identical to mine. She was pissed off at the end of Elpis, cried when Emet & Hythlodaeus showed up in Ultima Thule, and commented about the writers not being done twisting the knife.

It is! He's been my favorite of the streamers mostly because he hasn't been afraid to say that he doesn't like something when he doesn't like it. Plus he's pretty entertaining regardless of whether I agree with his take or not. I know now from watching him for a while that he is not a fan of what he feels are cheesy, contrived plot points and am just wanting to see how he'll feel about the idea of fighting an embodiment of despair and the power of friendship. You know he likes a dark story? He's just hyping himself up for what he feels will be dark and it's just...not. Venat will be a tossup. I know he loves Emet and will love Hythlodaeus but he is sort of stupid about any female character who has any kind of sass, so I think he'll let her pass. Not sure how he'll feel about Hermes either and feel like he's not going to like Meteion, either as a character or the last minute "Big Bad" but...we'll have to wait and see. Should be entertaining no matter what.

I'm not a Pyro fan but I may check in when he gets to that part of the game. So far his reactions have been as over-the-top as I expected so I'm not sure how he'll react to Elpis and co. To be fair, on my first playthrough I was totally hoodwinked as well and only gained clarity with time and lots of thought. Haven't seen Zepla's playthrough of that part, I'll put it on my queue and watch when I can.

[EaraGrace]

Zepla was pretty positive towards Hydaelyn and Venat after Elpis tho, as has been pretty much all the streamers and content creators I’ve seen.

[Rulakir]

Zepla was pretty positive towards Hydaelyn and Venat after Elpis tho, as has been pretty much all the streamers and content creators I’ve seen.

She changed her stance after the fact, yes. She doesn't tend to read chat when she's playing, so the reactions at the time were more authentic. As far as I know she only streams FFXIV, which has a community notorious for not accepting criticism, and she's been invited to interview Yoshi-P. She's not going to burn those bridges. Even still, she's continuously said she wants a happy "no more tears" ending for the Ancients.

I don't watch a lot of other streamers. I enjoyed Rich Campbell before he did an abrupt about face sometime in ShB because people in his audience were threatening to have his sponsorships removed on ethical grounds because he was pro-Ascian at the time. He was also invited to interview Yoshi-P. I tried watching some of his EW playthrough and it's just a gushy mess that doesn't sound authentic. I suspect that's going to be the case for anyone to whom FFXIV streaming is a significant source of revenue and even moreso if they have a history of being involved with SE, it's not in their professional best interests to be critical.

[PawPaw]

I enjoyed Rich Campbell before he did an abrupt about face sometime in ShB because people in his audience were threatening to have his sponsorships removed on ethical grounds because he was pro-Ascian at the time.

Wait, wait. This is what happened? I stopped watching him pretty quickly because I just can't with his stalling and tangents, but I did remember him being a huge fan of the Ascians. I didn't know he'd been bullied about it in any kind of seriousness. Ah well.

[EaraGrace]

She changed her stance after the fact, yes. She doesn't tend to read chat when she's playing, so the reactions at the time were more authentic. As far as I know she only streams FFXIV, which has a community notorious for not accepting criticism, and she's been invited to interview Yoshi-P. She's not going to burn those bridges. Even still, she's continuously said she wants a happy "no more tears" ending for the Ancients.

I don't watch a lot of other streamers. I enjoyed Rich Campbell before he did an abrupt about face sometime in ShB because people in his audience were threatening to have his sponsorships removed on ethical grounds because he was pro-Ascian at the time. He was also invited to interview Yoshi-P. I tried watching some of his EW playthrough and it's just a gushy mess that doesn't sound authentic. I suspect that's going to be the case for anyone to whom FFXIV streaming is a significant source of revenue and even moreso if they have a history of being involved with SE, it's not in their professional best interests to be critical.

I think it’s very much in the realm of confirmation bias to assume that these reactions were motivated by less honest reasons. Not to mention, if you think someone isn’t willing or able to be honest, why trust their opinions in any way? But eh, most streamers seemed to love the storyline on any case.

[KageTokage]

Is it Preach? I'm curious what he's going to say. I've been occasionally checking in on Pyromancer. I don't like watching him, but as a lore guy (and Emet fan) I want to see what his reaction is to Elpis and Venat. The problem with streamers is they're paid to entertain and griping about the story isn't going to amass an audience, especially in this community. Having said that, Zepla's reactions during her playthrough were almost identical to mine. She was pissed off at the end of Elpis, cried when Emet & Hythlodaeus showed up in Ultima Thule, and commented about the writers not being done twisting the knife.

Pyro was very vocal about how much he loathes the concept of time travel when it was brought up in ShB, so I am very curious to see how he receives the whole Elpis bit, particularly because none of the other people I've watched seemed to really bat an eye at how completely out of the blue it was.

[PawPaw]

Pyro was very vocal about how much he loathes the concept of time travel when it was brought up in ShB, so I am very curious to see how he receives the whole Elpis bit, particularly because none of the other people I've watched seemed to really bat an eye at how completely out of the blue it was.

Hmm, I wonder if he'll hate it or if he'll get swept away in the fanservice of the moment. He seems to love the Ancients so the whole Elpis experience might overpower his objections for a time. I also wasn't aware that he hated the time travel in ShB, so he just hated everything about the Crystal Tower/alternate timeline story?