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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosuran View Post
    I've emailed SE support about this issue, pointing out that 14 is still shown as valid Linux game on Steam (and that Steam was treated as a whole another platform than windows, PSx, Mac thus far), got a reply that it was sent to the devs so mayhaps...
    I doubt they'll manage to develop a whole new launcher any time soon for a niche like Linux/Steamdeck players.. old launcher with an updated JS maybe an option tho..
    Let's hope Gaben will go brr and help us.

    For Linux users:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVDUs019IB8 - dual GPU (or CPU with GPU + GPU)
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    https://github.com/QaidVoid/Complete...PU-Passthrough - maybe this will be helpful

    Valve's list has nothing to do with SE. They do not officially support Linux for this game and thankfully they probably never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Valve's list has nothing to do with SE. They do not officially support Linux for this game and thankfully they probably never will.
    Ever heard of... Steam Deck?
    https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-...he-steam-deck/
    Just to remind you

    Nothing you say

    I must've imagined that Steam has anything to do with Valve or SE's FF14...
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    Last edited by Kaosuran; 03-09-2022 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaosuran View Post
    Ever heard of... Steam Deck?
    https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-...he-steam-deck/
    Just to remind you

    Nothing you say

    I must've imagined that Steam has anything to do with Valve or SE's FF14...
    Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.
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    Show me on your proprietary M$ Teddy Bear ©, where the bad Tux touched you hun.
    Seeing that you have to go into a topic that doesn't relate to you in any way and you create spam that nobody asked for... get a life or your M$ paycheck already.

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    Last edited by Kaosuran; 03-09-2022 at 06:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Steam is nothing more than a store. SE has no obligation to support valves steam deck.
    Except that Square Enix doesn't treat it as "nothing more than a store." Steam licenses are sold as separate licenses for a separate platform, being treated on the same footing as Windows, Mac, etc. If SE wants to treat Steam as its own platform, then they either need to support that platform or discontinue selling an independent license for it. They do not sell separate licenses for every other digital store that carries FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by junmoxiao View Post
    Except that Square Enix doesn't treat it as "nothing more than a store." Steam licenses are sold as separate licenses for a separate platform, being treated on the same footing as Windows, Mac, etc. If SE wants to treat Steam as its own platform, then they either need to support that platform or discontinue selling an independent license for it. They do not sell separate licenses for every other digital store that carries FFXIV.
    Steam isn't a platform, its a store. Regardless of how SE treats the steam license, steam is still nothing more than a store page and on their store page it straight up says;

    OS: Windows® 8.1 64 bit, Windows® 10 64 bit, Windows® 11 64 bit.

    They do not support linux, they are under no obligation to support linux, nor should they support linux. Linux gives users full access to the OS kernal which is just a breeding ground for hacking/exploits and its the very reason developers like Bungie flat out said they will ban anyone trying to play Destiny 2 on Linux.

    Using Linux is a "at your own risk" situation. The game does not officially support it and its on you to deal with those consequences, not SE. They have no obligation to abide to a less than 1% crowd that Linux on their home PC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    They do not support linux, they are under no obligation to support linux,
    Not really asking anyone to support it, just asking them not to break it, on one specific platform. Keep in mind, the game itself runs perfectly fine under Linux. This is strictly a launcher issue. We're not complaining we crash when we go to a place in the world. The launcher within Steam is just being extremely restrictive, a problem not shared by anyone who's not using a Steam-specific key.
    nor should they support linux.
    Weird thing to say, but okay, sure. And again, 'support' is different from 'avoiding specific breakage.' The only trouble Linux has is with an old, dated technology in a launcher for XIV. Nothing to do with the game at all.
    Linux gives users full access to the OS kernal which is just a breeding ground for hacking/exploits
    ... Oh, wow, okay, sure. Because Linux users are the ones exploiting all the games, especially the ones they can't even play because of anti-cheat. You're gonna have to pick a side, here -- either we're an endangered species or we're prolific.
    and its the very reason developers like Bungie flat out said they will ban anyone trying to play Destiny 2 on Linux.
    Nah. No anticheat needs kernel access in the first place, not really. It's the easy answer, but it'll always be the laziest answer, and the worst one. They can say whatever they want -- lazy dev is lazy.
    Using Linux is a "at your own risk" situation. The game does not officially support it and its on you to deal with those consequences, not SE. They have no obligation to abide to a less than 1% crowd that Linux on their home PC's.
    Once again, are we a prolific problem persistently pestering the populace, or are we less than one percent?

    Oh, and 'don't fix what ain't broke.' This was an easily avoidable problem given there doesn't seem to be any actual need to push this update. Again, we don't need to be 'supported.' But we also don't need to be hampered.
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    They could also just make the account linking feature opt-in (or opt-out) instead of mandatory for all users. It's a hoop that non-Steam users aren't even being forced to deal with right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereInPlainSight View Post
    Once again, are we a prolific problem persistently pestering the populace, or are we less than one percent?
    Its a can that doesn't need to be opened, thus the take companies like Epic and Bungie are taking against supporting linux.
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