Please allow Steam License holders to buy a standalone PC License.

[Johners]

Edit to add: What I don't understand is everyone coming in here nay-saying rather than supporting their fellow Eorzeans. I really will never understand the level of disparagement on the OF for any suggestions people post, frivolous or not. I really don't feel like what were asking for is so insane that people need to jump on the thread and scream copium.

Then again its the OF, what can I expect when I step into Titanman's lair?

I'm not nay-saying, it's just the reality of how distributing on Steam and other major platforms actually works. The Steam requirement was always there from day one, it's not them adding DRM after the fact. An actual complaint would be them migrating the entire game from the standalone launcher to Steam or implementing an anti-cheat system like Easy Anti Cheat.

[HisShadowX]

I wont comment on the other poster attacking you but I will comment on this:

I see your forum account is newer, and I know this is an assumption but I'm going to guess you're a newer player? It's nice you got to sign up for Steam knowing exactly what cards you were being dealt but that isn't the case for those of us that have played since 1.0 and 2.0. I'm sorry if this is difficult for you to understand.

Is there any reason in particular your white-knighting this policy so hard? If you check the forums there are plenty of people ( myself included ) whose accounts are broken and can't login because of this change. I'm genuinely happy if we are in the minority and most people aren't having issues but is it really that difficult to have some empathy or understand why we want to buy a PC License?



I may be wrong but: you wouldn't even be able to buy it for Steam, you'd need to open a brand new SqE account and start a brand new character. So yeah, kinda silly all around for everyone, even PC users.

I am over on the Steam forums right now and people are upset basically the update has now locked out all Linux users and they can't play anymore. Basically if you were planning on playing on the Steamdeck this game no longer will work on it. I know Gabe and his son play this game so hopefully there will be a fix

[Mesarthim]

As a steam user with zero issues (since 3.2) I have to ask one question specifically while ignoring every other complaint because I'm not going to touch this otherwise:

What kind of issues are you mentioning about steam downtime being a problem? I've been a steam user since 3.2 and not once have I been impaired from being able to play or login. I know steam can have maintenances on Tuesday but other than that I'm drawing a blank on this particular complaint.

[Youkulm]

What kind of issues are you mentioning about steam downtime being a problem? I've been a steam user since 3.2 and not once have I been impaired from being able to play or login. I know steam can have maintenances on Tuesday but other than that I'm drawing a blank on this particular complaint.

Might be more of an issue now that you're required to login through steam, but we don't know. There has been zero transparency with the dev team on this roll out. Guess we'll find out if Steam has any downtime in the future but AFAIK it rarely goes down.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Raise of a hand here, PLEASE LET US BUY THE STAND ALONE VERSION

[NevrastCrescent]

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Christ... This is SO frustrating...

[SieyaM]

I bought the game on Steam because at the time it seemed convenient, I played other games from Steam and I wanted to keep everything together on one nice little platform. I haven't had any real issues with playing the steam version other than being locked into buying expansions from Steam. Unless they have changed it, when you buy the steam version only CD keys from steam will register correctly for future expansions, it is why I had to buy HW twice because I originally bought it from the SE store and when it went live my CD key did not work for my account. From what I understand Steam is unusually restrictive in that even if you buy Keys for other platforms your account will not transfer, where it seems that PS and PC seem to be able to move back and forth freely as long as you have the appropriate keys.

[Avidria]

I'm not nay-saying, it's just the reality of how distributing on Steam and other major platforms actually works. The Steam requirement was always there from day one, it's not them adding DRM after the fact. An actual complaint would be them migrating the entire game from the standalone launcher to Steam or implementing an anti-cheat system like Easy Anti Cheat.

The requirement to launch the game through Steam was not there from day one. Until their last update - I think in 2017? I didn't even need to have Steam installed on my computer to download, launch, and play FFXIV. The only steam requirement I ever had to deal with was buying all expansions through Steam, but I also started playing within the first patch of Heavensward. I didn't use steam to play the game at all before they decided to make it a requirement.

[MintnHoney]

The Steam requirement was always there from day one

Speaking as one of those players who's been around for a long time, no, it actually was not, even when I joined, which was not from day 1. In fact, there are a lot of games that don't require you to launch the game directly from steam in order to access and play them. That's not a big secret.

You're being called a "nay-sayer," "victim blamer," and regarded as acting "holier than thou" because you're being dismissive of an issue that was created (because it has not always been an issue) specifically in relation to a platform while actively trying to tell people that they can't ask for access to an alternative platform because "they should have known better," just like you did (I guess) when you joined (however long ago that was). The ability to change platforms would not affect you in the slightest, and is a valid request. The complaint of being unable to play the game, either due to this issue, or the many others that have come up over the years, is a valid complaint. Your opinion and viewpoint of the "reality of the situation" is noted, if that makes you feel better, but it's too narrow for the broad scope of the situation and doesn't actually address anything other than to try and rub people's noses into something that not everyone could have planned for.

inb4 the "I'm not trying to rub people's noses in" response where you try to justify another round of "but you should have known better."

[Varilyon]

I'm very sad that we are being punished now for buying the game through Steam, a decision made 6 years ago.
The restrictions just keep on getting tighter and tighter.

- Forced to buy expansions through steam
- Forced payments through steam wallets including subscription
- Forced now to run without the -issteam launch option
- No option to switch or way out

So, we are stuck with it forever. Along with whatever other punishments come down the line. Restrictions that no other type of player is subject to.
I really hope this thread catches the attention of those at SE that can do something about this.

"Buys on a proprietary plattform, where everything since the beginning of said plattform stays there and complains, that this is a prietary plattform."

What do people expect? It was your decision to pay Valve to have everything in a launcher.