Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[IDontPetLalas]

I don't disagree that WHM is the healer that needs the most care from the dev team at the moment, just was pointing out we don't need different job builds because we can just play a different job. Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WHM meta near the beginning of ShB because it's damage was so high? I know it's still one of the best healers for TEA, where it beats out two of the tanks in DPS. Plus all DRK mains love a WHM main lol. Again, not saying it's good now, or was fun to play then, just saying that even after the introduction of AST it still finds it's place.

This makes no sense at all. Here's a metaphor for you - it would be like telling a customer that wants a chocolate cake that the customer should just take the vanilla cake right next to it. if the customer really wants a chocolate cake, make a good chocolate cake, don't try to convince him/her that vanilla is just as good. what's even worse, don't try telling that customer to order the vanilla cake because some stranger likes vanilla. You (might just) get that cake right in your face,

[SeverianLyonesse]

This makes no sense at all. Here's a metaphor for you - it would be like telling a customer that wants a chocolate cake that the customer should just take the vanilla cake right next to it. if the customer really wants a chocolate cake, make a good chocolate cake, don't try to convince him/her that vanilla is just as good. what's even worse, don't try telling that customer to order the vanilla cake because some stranger likes vanilla. You (might just) get that cake right in your face,

While I don't want to disregard people who may *only* want play as one class, that is definitely not a point of appeal for XIV. And at least as far as my experience goes, it is extremely rare to encounter that sort of player.

Moreover, this analogy seems a bit underserving since the job design in XIV changes. Just because I liked vanilla PLD through earlier leveling doesn't mean I didn't switch for chocolate DRK when it became available. Just because I liked strawberry RDM in ShB doesn't mean the EW version ticks my job fantasy boxes. Right now, I voluntarily abandoned DRK and RDM because I am waiting on the next expansion to fill in holes I see in their design (as far as my personal job fantasy tastes go). And I'm okay with that because there are other jobs that appeal more to me in this current iteration of the game.

Put another way, in reality what you are describing is someone going into a Baskin Robbins wanting chocolate ice cream. Then, when discovering that they are out of chocolate ice cream because it melted on the way over, they instead to throw a tantrum or leave. It's somehow the store's fault that they have a very narrow and unadventurous palette, whereas most normal people either already like other flavors of ice cream that are in stock, or otherwise are open to trying new flavors.

[IDontPetLalas]

While I don't want to disregard people who may *only* want play as one class, that is definitely not a point of appeal for XIV. And at least as far as my experience goes, it is extremely rare to encounter that sort of player.

Moreover, this analogy seems a bit underserving since the job design in XIV changes. Just because I liked vanilla PLD through earlier leveling doesn't mean I didn't switch for chocolate DRK when it became available. Just because I liked strawberry RDM in ShB doesn't mean the EW version ticks my job fantasy boxes. Right now, I voluntarily abandoned DRK and RDM because I am waiting on the next expansion to fill in holes I see in their design (as far as my personal job fantasy tastes go). And I'm okay with that because there are other jobs that appeal more to me in this current iteration of the game.

Put another way, in reality what you are describing is someone going into a Baskin Robbins wanting chocolate ice cream. Then, when discovering that they are out of chocolate ice cream because it melted on the way over, they instead to throw a tantrum or leave. It's somehow the store's fault that they have a very narrow and unadventurous palette, whereas most normal people either already like other flavors of ice cream that are in stock, or otherwise are open to trying new flavors.

if you read my example, in no place did i say that the customer 'throws a tantrum and leaves'. What I was trying to state , is that when a customer expresses a need, do not take the approach of trying to sell them something by trying to convince them that they want something completely opposite without (a) trying to understand their needs and (b) in fact, trying to convince them that they should take it because it fits someone else 's needs, which may be completely different to theirs- isn't the correct approach, and is even worse on multiple levels.

Most people will understand that jobs evolve over time. at any time, that could introduce a change that someone likes , or may not like. Many people like multiple jobs, I agree with you, I am one of them. However it is also true that many people have strong prferences for a particular job, and the fact that people may play more than one job doesn't mean that design changes should get sloppy.