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  1. #11
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Unfortunately, there's far too much third party software usage going on in the housing world. Knowing that, and the advantage it gives players over those who aren't using it, I can't support FCFS wards on the release of Ishgard housing. Make it all lotto, it's the great equalizer.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No thanks, I'd like to have a chance at owning a house and getting access to the exclusive housing features. I don't want to miss out on housing because I didn't wake up at 4am or sit around clicking a sign for 12 hours.
    New wards are purchasable immediately. You aren't clicking a placard for more than two seconds if you want a house. The whole click spamming only occurs with houses that go back on the market.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No thanks, I'd like to have a chance at owning a house and getting access to the exclusive housing features. I don't want to miss out on housing because I didn't wake up at 4am or sit around clicking a sign for 12 hours.
    Guessing you've only read the title? OP is asking for a few wards to be using the FCFS system, not for the entire new housing area to use the FCFS system. A few wards won't suddenly cause you to miss out on participating in the lottery system.

    I think it's fair to have a few wards using the FCFS, with the majority using the lottery system. Means the people who want to, can try their hand at a housing rush. Meanwhile, the rest can just enter the lottery on one of the many lottery plots.
    Either way, the forums will still end up getting flooded with complaints. The only difference being that most of them will be about RNG, rather than others being faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    The only difference being that most of them will be about RNG, rather than others being faster.
    There's your issue. The moment housing becomes available, the housing bots get RIGHT ON IT like moths to a flame. I've seen them straight teleport to the place right when it's been opened, and they've been able to snatch it up before any other player can get to it.

    While a housing rush was a natural thing since Shirogane opened up, I'm full support for the Lottery System that their team has made. The Lottery System also heavily taxes bots in the fact that it's at a major operating loss for the person handling his army of bots, so it helps make it that much harder for them to just steal the plot outright and try to sell it via RMT.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    There's your issue. The moment housing becomes available, the housing bots get RIGHT ON IT like moths to a flame. I've seen them straight teleport to the place right when it's been opened, and they've been able to snatch it up before any other player can get to it.

    While a housing rush was a natural thing since Shirogane opened up, I'm full support for the Lottery System that their team has made. The Lottery System also heavily taxes bots in the fact that it's at a major operating loss for the person handling his army of bots, so it helps make it that much harder for them to just steal the plot outright and try to sell it via RMT.
    Your post makes it sound like the system can only be FCFS or the lottery system. Meanwhile, Yoshi-P himself has stated that the team can customize each plot on what system is used to purchase it.
    As for the issue on housing bots, that's just something the players in favor of having a few FCFS housing wards will have to contend with. Meanwhile, the majority of the wards would still be using the lottery system.
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    I support FCFS wards upon new housing district/ward releases. A mix is fine in my view and I hope we see that in the next live letter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril7 View Post
    If you don’t agree, we’ll you are just greedy people.
    A system that every active players have a chance vs a system only a tiny portion of players who could get in the game fast enough in a specific time…hum…who’s greedy
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    A system that every active players have a chance vs a system only a tiny portion of players who could get in the game fast enough in a specific time…hum…who’s greedy
    When you also add in that many of these people are using third party launchers and plugins to log in faster over users who are just using the standard and yeah. They want it because they know they have an advantage.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Guessing you've only read the title? OP is asking for a few wards to be using the FCFS system, not for the entire new housing area to use the FCFS system. A few wards won't suddenly cause you to miss out on participating in the lottery system.

    I think it's fair to have a few wards using the FCFS, with the majority using the lottery system. Means the people who want to, can try their hand at a housing rush. Meanwhile, the rest can just enter the lottery on one of the many lottery plots.
    Either way, the forums will still end up getting flooded with complaints. The only difference being that most of them will be about RNG, rather than others being faster.
    Any still using the FCFS system in my opinion is too much. The system punishes people who have commitments outside of this game or who live in north america and can't get up at 3am to try to be the first to get to a plot.
    As others have said too, there is a problem with FCFS allowing players to attempt to rush a house and if they don't get it, also enter lotteries afterwards.

    All Lottery is the way to go, it's the most fair system that allows everyone to have an equal shot instead of unfairly punishing certain types of players or certain regions. There's no benefit to FCFS over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    The system punishes people who have commitments outside of this game or who live in north america and can't get up at 3am to try to be the first to get to a plot.
    Which is why the majority of the plots would still be using the lottery system. Having a few wards be FCFS keeps both groups happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck
    As others have said too, there is a problem with FCFS allowing players to attempt to rush a house and if they don't get it, also enter lotteries afterwards.
    Kind of irrelevant, as the lotteries will get flooded with entries anyway. Especially on servers that are currently listed as congested.

    As for the third party launcher/login issues, there's always the option of enabling plot purchases 1 hour after servers go live. Although this still makes it a game of who can click things faster.
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