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  1. #31
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    Vagrant Chaoz
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    Seriously, I swear most the comments I read on this forum are people whining. Didn't blm come with some pretty neat abilities (convert etc) which addressed some of the previous complaints about the class?. I thought and are led to believe that thm/blms still are one of the best damage dealers in the game. Why is it most you guys have this all or nothing attitude with regards to thm/blm. Why does everything have to do X amount of damage (on everything, although I thought blms were meant to be wise to elemental weaknesses and plan accordingly) before you're all happy? Surely some abilities are meant to be situational?

    Blms weren't the only ones to receive job abilities that weren't all that exciting, but most of us can see the other advantages to playing a job. Gaining one potentially situational/bad ability (burst) while still being able to use all the thm spells and gain convert (amongst other things) seems like a pretty damn good deal to me. I just don't understand some of you. I don't mean to offend anyone btw and I know I don't have thm levelled but this is just an observation.

    Tldr; Why can't some people just be happy?
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    Last edited by CrownedClown; 03-12-2012 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Added tldr;

  2. #32
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    Valega Kazenoko
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sehro View Post
    what Convert do to a 50 blm? i really dont understand it lol.it just consume mp!
    It switches your current HP and MP values.

    Use it after running low on MP to fill it back up.

    Then try not to die because you have no HP.
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  3. #33
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    Radav Qadav
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    Having to wait 15 min. to use an ability should mean it's doing something unbelievably strong compared to your normal low CD abilities. This is most certainly not the case for Burst. Are we supposed to be excited by the fact we have another Thunder spell to combo every 15 min.? I think they should think about doubling the base dmg. Wouldn't it feel a lot stronger then?
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownedClown View Post
    Seriously, I swear most the comments I read on this forum are people whining. Didn't blm come with some pretty neat abilities (convert etc) which addressed some of the previous complaints about the class?. I thought and are led to believe that thm/blms still are one of the best damage dealers in the game. Why is it most you guys have this all or nothing attitude with regards to thm/blm. Why does everything have to do X amount of damage (on everything, although I thought blms were meant to be wise to elemental weaknesses and plan accordingly) before you're all happy? Surely some abilities are meant to be situational?

    Blms weren't the only ones to receive job abilities that weren't all that exciting, but most of us can see the other advantages to playing a job. Gaining one potentially situational/bad ability (burst) while still being able to use all the thm spells and gain convert (amongst other things) seems like a pretty damn good deal to me. I just don't understand some of you. I don't mean to offend anyone btw and I know I don't have thm levelled but this is just an observation.

    Tldr; Why can't some people just be happy?
    How about you main a job that gets shit on time and again. (Crappy 15 min ability, Crappy AF gear stats, Removal of all good CC, lack of good meldable gear, nearly impossible to obtain Sorcerer's Gear, Ifrit's Dildo, New BLM staff with garbage stats, crappy shoes, best pieces are fing BROWN, etc...) Then come back and complain about it so I can laugh at your demise.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kafeen View Post
    It switches your current HP and MP values.

    Use it after running low on MP to fill it back up.

    Then try not to die because you have no HP.
    Well basically I try to do this: Convert > Necrogenesis + Burst (To get a few more points of damage ) > Second Wind. I am typically back to full health assuming a WHM doesnt waste MP curing me thinking I took damage. (Call out those converts BLMs.)
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateAlchemist View Post
    How about you main a job that gets shit on time and again. (Crappy 15 min ability, Crappy AF gear stats, Removal of all good CC, lack of good meldable gear, nearly impossible to obtain Sorcerer's Gear, Ifrit's Dildo, New BLM staff with garbage stats, crappy shoes, best pieces are fing BROWN, etc...) Then come back and complain about it so I can laugh at your demise.

    I played Drk main in ffxi for 4 years, the class got nerfed to hell and more on topic I played Mar pre 1.2. Still miss the old storms path. But seriously, like I said I was expressing an oppinion. No need for the hostility.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kafeen View Post
    It switches your current HP and MP values.

    Use it after running low on MP to fill it back up.

    Then try not to die because you have no HP.
    See this proves right here that convert is fail as heck
    It worked on red mages in ffxi because they could cure themselves right back into combat
    with stoneskin and stuff

    but black mage in this is a sitting duck in this unless a whm assists right away.

    i mean im not gonna claim to know alot about blm cuz my thm is only 16 or so, but if burst doesnt do that much extra damage at low hp, and convert leaves you in peril I think we can all put 2 and 2 together.
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  8. #38
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Why would you expect anything more than Burst pre Cap increase?

    The community is saying SE is stupid for putting a weak Burst spell as BLMs 15. Meanwhile SE is laughing at how stupid the community is because they seriously have no foresight and expect high powered spells like meteor before BLM or any or job has reached their prime.

    Why is it hard for so many ppl to stop being overreacting hysteric masses and instead stop to rationalize what you're thinking before some dumb BS like this thread is posted.

    Rationalize ppl. Quit being retarded and stop to think before assuming stupidity based off of factors that only the dev team are privvy to.

    *huggles*

    /inbeforethreadclose
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  9. #39
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    Griss Stilgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofRains View Post
    See this proves right here that convert is fail as heck
    It worked on red mages in ffxi because they could cure themselves right back into combat
    with stoneskin and stuff

    but black mage in this is a sitting duck in this unless a whm assists right away.
    Necrogenisis and second wind want to have a chat with you. The only way convert is deadly is if you use it with one of these two skills on cool down, use it while you have a dot on, or if you get blasted in the couple of seconds your sitting at low hp.

    the last two would knock out a rdm in xi after a convert as well.

    I will how ever agree burst seems a little lacking.
    How ever i would leave it as the level 50 skill. 4/5 Job abilitys we got are pretty damned smexy. I am sort of ok with the lame duck sitting on the 15 min recast. It means that all the cool stuff we have can be employed regularly.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy View Post
    yea i no it's not even powerful it's weakish compared to most of the other spells if there going to make it a 15 min at least make the 15 min wait worth it i think this would need to be fixed but so far just us 2 that think that ><
    have you tried using it with low hp as that increases the damage of it. Mine hit harder then my aga with full hp, I haven't tested it with low hp yet.
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