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  1. #91
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    I had an arcanist in stone vigil a couple weeks ago. They had around 5-6 classes in the 40 range but none with the soul stone unlocked. They said they knew what they were doing and weren't going to get the jobs unlocked until they were ready... I blacklisted them after the duty and pray I never run into them again.
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  2. #92
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Alpha
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    Bard Lv 90
    should either make them mandatory or even just abolish them alltogether really.

    I have to say if you've never seen someone do it intentionally then count your blessings. i know someone who would even try to get a few buddies to tag along so they could run alliance roulettes without job stones, and given that you can't kick people during the first 5 minutes or while loot rolls are still running that generally ment groups where stuck with things like a marauder and 2 pugilists. and yes, the low level alliance roullettes are stupidly easy, still no reason to make them take longer than need be, though that was indeed not the worst thing i have witnessed.

    that dubious honor would go to the gladiator i had in stone vigil (normal mode) who couldn't hold even two mobs and who outright told us he planned to continue playing like that as he was "roleplaying a gladiator that...... and later turns into a dark knight".

    i mean listen, if you want to roleplay than go ahead, but that was outright griefing the group and after 10 minutes and 3 wipes we simply kicked him...
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  3. #93
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    Sage Lv 98
    The sunken temple of qarn is potentially unlockable before you get to the Sylph Management MSQ so it's possible to go into that dungeon without having the ability to unlock jobs
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  4. #94
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    should either make them mandatory or even just abolish them alltogether really.

    I have to say if you've never seen someone do it intentionally then count your blessings. i know someone who would even try to get a few buddies to tag along so they could run alliance roulettes without job stones, and given that you can't kick people during the first 5 minutes or while loot rolls are still running that generally ment groups where stuck with things like a marauder and 2 pugilists. and yes, the low level alliance roullettes are stupidly easy, still no reason to make them take longer than need be, though that was indeed not the worst thing i have witnessed.

    that dubious honor would go to the gladiator i had in stone vigil (normal mode) who couldn't hold even two mobs and who outright told us he planned to continue playing like that as he was "roleplaying a gladiator that...... and later turns into a dark knight".

    i mean listen, if you want to roleplay than go ahead, but that was outright griefing the group and after 10 minutes and 3 wipes we simply kicked him...
    I don't mind if people put a No Stone run into pf for other people to do for fun - that's fine! But doing it with potentially 23 other people who aren't expecting it is not all right. Otherwise, this really has been happening more often. I'm also all for roleplaying, but you stay OOC when you're in a dungeon unless you're running with 3 other people you're rping with in the dungeon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    The sunken temple of qarn is potentially unlockable before you get to the Sylph Management MSQ so it's possible to go into that dungeon without having the ability to unlock jobs
    Since it's sitting at lv35 to run, something like that would fall under 31+ and they can always lock it behind a job stone needed. Perhaps locking it behind needing to finish Sylph Management would make it easier to deal with for the devs.
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  5. #95
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    Eriane Elis
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    Exodus
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    Or....

    Dear Devs... Get rid of Job crystals. Keep them in lore but remove them as an actual item. You will save a lot of equipable slots and no one will ever forget to equip their job crystal. But you say... What about SMN or SCH!? Well, that's easy. Just make a tickbox on the character window that lets you swap over between SMN and SCH or something like that. It would be easy to remedy. Just get rid of crystals altogether please.
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  6. #96
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    Chime Ex
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Yes, please!
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  7. #97
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    Or....

    Dear Devs... Get rid of Job crystals. Keep them in lore but remove them as an actual item. You will save a lot of equipable slots and no one will ever forget to equip their job crystal. But you say... What about SMN or SCH!? Well, that's easy. Just make a tickbox on the character window that lets you swap over between SMN and SCH or something like that. It would be easy to remedy. Just get rid of crystals altogether please.
    don't even need a tickbox, simply turn all books below level 30 into arc/sch and give us seperate smn books level 30+. just make some recolors up to level 50 and you're done. yea, that would mean slightly more work having a working weapon for both below level 50 but that really should be the least concern, would just put it where every other class/job allready is.
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  8. #98
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    HisShadowX's Avatar
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    William Hart
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I think this does need to be reworked most definitely. For certain content I outleveled my job and for example certain amazing abilities were not unlocked because I did not do the job quest. You also have various classes without job crystals because you need to make sure you unlock certain content first. So it can get confusing here.
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  9. #99
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    Or....

    Dear Devs... Get rid of Job crystals. Keep them in lore but remove them as an actual item. You will save a lot of equipable slots and no one will ever forget to equip their job crystal. But you say... What about SMN or SCH!? Well, that's easy. Just make a tickbox on the character window that lets you swap over between SMN and SCH or something like that. It would be easy to remedy. Just get rid of crystals altogether please.
    This has been discussed throughout the thread, and why they can't really do that, so just requiring it like they would in PvP or raids for specific ilvls with a pointer for new players on where to get their crystal would be much easier. If they can figure it out later on, great! But for now, until they can? Just require the crystals to be equipped past 31 in duties.
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  10. #100
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Giving this a bump as I've been seeing more posts in places about this. Please give us this QoL, devs!
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