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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Nah, SGE has instant heals with its Addersgall stacks so they don't lack completely in that department.

    What would you define as barely healing, and what would you define as "not DPSing the entire time and healing" (ie the thing you do)? Like, are you dying to no heals often across many groups? If you're zooming from 100-40, it's a tank defensives issue. If your health gradually slips to 0, then it's a healer issue (at least usually). Healers as a norm do prefer to do damage and healing both.

    Have you come back after a really long time?

    I'm talking about no healing buffs put on me or if it a buff is put on me they accept that as healing. Like they won't start healing at all I noticed as a Paladin. This week when I tested I was not going to heal at the beginning of the dungeons the healers would often not cast even a healing buff or if they did that's all they did and just DPS'd until I died. Then when they resurrected me they did one big heal and then stopped healing completely again.

    I've noticed this is happening to my Paladins only the Gunblades and Dark Knights will get healed, but the Paladin seems to be expected to heal themselves.


    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    I'd say I get those types of healers more in P1-4Ns for some reasons, sages being the biggest offenders with being greedy with their heals and deciding to dps more. Seriously during a P3N run with my SO being my DRK co-tank, his healing was on par with both the AST and the sage by using TBN lmao when we checked FFlogs. I was constantly floating around 5-10k hp the entire fight and only lived due to TBN being on me + clemency nonstop.

    I honestly don't get it. It's definitely not just you, I think in general it's been that way even if you aren't a PLD, PLD is just more sustainable with their heals unlike DRK where they NEED to be healed or die
    So your getting that on other tanks. Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, there was always a segment of the healing population that prefers DPSing over healing, but it seems to have gotten worse in this expansion and especially for Paladins. I mean on my other tanks I am still getting healers who barely heal there as always been that but the weird thing about my Paladins I am getting healers in Endwalker content that won't heal at all causing a wipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I main PLD and I can't say I've run into this problem.

    I would suggest just not using clemency at all and seeing if the problem continues, even if you feel you're about to die. I doubt anyone will give you flak for not clemming.
    That is what I started testing this week and I have been demanded I use clemency which at this point they want me to be Healer and tank

    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    I dunno, i've been running into to pld who clem if they fall below 95% hp. Like chill bro, i know how to use benny.
    Lol, I actually do this for a specific reason. For example there is a Buff the Paladin has that once you get healed it gives everyone around you a defensive buff. So if I noticed I am pretty high up and it will be a minute before I am going to get healed I typically use that ability and clem so everyone gets a defensive boost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Paladin has the most robust kit in terms of utility, self-sustain, and mitigation. This in turn allows your healers to output more dps on your behalf, which is why things are balanced this way. You've already had two expansions as hands down the most dominant tank, heaven forbid that you're not the best tank at everything.
    This is an example of the mentality I am speaking off. They expect you to heal well the healers DPS
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    Last edited by HisShadowX; 03-04-2022 at 01:42 AM.