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    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus View Post
    As a recent first-time estate owner I was quickly dismayed by the many issues with chocobo stables.

    To start with, they're ugly. It's a rustic wooden shed with straw on the floor. Were they designed to intentionally match a peasant medieval inn? They sure don't work with my FC's brand new cafe walls, or my private forge cottage.

    Next, they're absurdly bulky. The stables occupy a massive chunk of the available land. This especially penalises cottages which have few options to design around the huge aesthetic wart. On private estates it seems especially absurd to carve off so much real-estate area for stabling one or two personal birds.

    They're ridiculously priced. 125k for a wooden shed? And no, they can't be crafted.

    It gets worse. There are mechanics the game doesn't tell us about, that make the price not merely high, but downright insulting. Because you can't even store them, once placed, nor remove to inventory. Nope, if you regret the installation, it can only be destroyed. This is not mentioned in any tooltip, and the confirmation dialog that vaguely hints at it is almost identical to the usual one - good luck spotting the difference, let alone realising what it meant. Instead, you find out at the worst possible time, that is, once already purchased, installed and occupying a large chunk of land and 5% of your item slots.

    If that wasn't bad enough, the game misleads you about the design possibilities. In preview mode, you can place them in areas that aren't actually permitted with the real item. Hours later you discover the design you had in mind is impossible to achieve. If it was cheap, or storable, this could be slightly less affronting - but only slightly.

    To sum up, I quickly determined that chocobo stables are ugly, bulky, expensive, constraining, misleading, and defective.

    As far as I can tell they haven't changed much (or at all) since ARR? I'm calling for a rethink.
    All of these. Especially the thing where you can't store or remove them us a pain. FC members rarely put their chocobo in a stable. The only time you actually need it is when someone wants to change their chocobo's color. So, it would make sense to put it in the yard for someone to use it over night and then put it back in storage, so that item slots can be used for something aesthetically pleasing.

    Also, just ignore Jojoba. They seem to be commenting on every single thread just to antagonize people and be a toxic troll. What they said here was absolutely ridiculous and for the sake of making you upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    Also, just ignore Jojoba. They seem to be commenting on every single thread just to antagonize people and be a toxic troll. What they said here was absolutely ridiculous and for the sake of making you upset.
    Indeed, obvious nitwit troll tries to gatekeep whether someone has standing to debate the design of fictional creature stables, on the most laughable and spurious grounds, goes straight to the ignore list.
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    So this is why there's folks in other random threads saying their ignore list is capped at 300 or 500 or whatever it is, and desperately begging for a bigger list.

    You really need to place someone with opposing ideas on ignore? It's just an opposing idea - a difference of opinion.

    How do you folks cope when you go to work and your boss is a mega-jerk to you? Do you "virtually" put them on ignore? Quit your job, exit the building, delete your bosses contact from your phone, put their number on block, stick your head in the sand and pretend they don't exist? What a very strange parental failure to cause a human to behave like this.

    I welcome my new spot on your ignore list, I guess. Go ahead and falsely tailor the world so that it fits your idea of what it is.

    Holy crap, I've been posting here since last July, some 300-ish posts, and my signature has never been more applicable.

    Good luck in life. You will need it.
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    There's few sights more pitiful than a parochial culture warrior, out of their depth on an international forum, throwing a hissy fit about being shown the door.

    Trolling doesn't equal a diversity of opinion, and the howl of pain from the troll merely confirms the utility of that ignore list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus View Post
    There's few sights more pitiful than a parochial culture warrior, out of their depth on an international forum, throwing a hissy fit about being shown the door.

    Trolling doesn't equal a diversity of opinion, and the howl of pain from the troll merely confirms the utility of that ignore list.
    What trolling is going on?

    I don't agree with what you said. That does not make me a troll.

    Breakbeat evidently doesn't agree with your response. That doesn't make him a troll.

    Looks like others have now posted to say they don't agree with you either. Are you going to accuse them of being trolls?

    It's a player forum for game discussion. You're going to run into people who disagree with you. Learn to deal with it instead of accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you of being a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus View Post
    They sure don't work with my FC's brand new cafe walls, or my private forge cottage.
    They don't match any of the newer housing exteriors, because they were designed & implemented in patch 2.3, well before any of the Workshop-crafted exteriors even existed. SE hasn't touched the model of the stables ever since.

    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus
    Next, they're absurdly bulky.
    The size of the stables is likely an intentional design decision, as they need to be able to show any sized Chocobo without clipping with the stable itself. Chocobos scale with race, so a Roegadyn one is much larger than an Au Ra one.

    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus
    They're ridiculously priced. 125k for a wooden shed? And no, they can't be crafted.
    125k is hardly a lot of gil nowadays.

    Quote Originally Posted by inopinatus
    In preview mode, you can place them in areas that aren't actually permitted with the real item.
    If you already intend on placing one anyway, why not just try placing one without the preview mode? That should already show you where you can or can't place one (without actually placing it).

    Only thing I can really agree with regarding your post is that the stables could use a few more different models.


    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    The only time you actually need it is when someone wants to change their chocobo's color.
    They're also useful for passive exp gain (1% exp per feeding up to lvl 10, 0,5-0,95% between lvl 11-20), as well as being able to have certain chocobo food become favourited by the chocobo. For example, feeding it 10 curiel roots in a row causes curiel roots to become favourited, increasing its effect from +10% to +15% bonus exp.
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