Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The worst is when you stack with another person and think you're safe and focus on other stuff, only to find yourself exploding because the person you stacked with decided to nope out of it (especially at the last second).

This happened to my friend in P2N.

Predatory Sight casted, everybody gets their doritos. My friend is a MCH, stacking with that BLM who’s firing away inside their Leyline. Thena second before the attack goes off this BLM just zips across to the larger group with AM leaving my friend dying alone in their leyline lol.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Be me, vibing and doing roulettes for tomes to make up for skipping a couple of days. Land in Rabanastre for Alliance roulette - cool! It isn't CT, that's always a blessing.

See both tanks with their stances on when the gate drops and we're heading towards Mateus, keep mine off since I'm just there to vibe and do content. Other GNB rushes in immediately, holds aggro pretty well; wasn't doing perfectly - I saw them miss a few No Mercy windows - but eh considering their gear they were probably still learning the class. Loses aggro once or twice to the PLD during movement-heavy parts, normal stuff. Thankfully no Provoke wars, at least.

Roll up to Hashbrown, it goes... not that great. B team lives up to their name, many of them are dying often and they didn't kill their sand sphere during Control Tower, which nearly wiped everyone (and took out both of my healers). After Hashbrown's dead and the GNB's already yeeted into the three Baanga adds, B's PLD decides to out themselves as a stooge in front of the whole Alliance by going "I'm surprised two gunbreakers kept losing aggro to me ".

I point out one of us doesn't even have their stance on outside of Adds. I'm just over here vibing, man.

"You just have to do your combo once and it's easy to hold it".

Me: Why don't you look at the GNB who actually has their stance on, if you want to flex or w/e.

No reply after, thank god, we get to the waterways though and Alliance chat starts exploding with high school level "oooooo an argument!" "can't we all just be nice?" "*grabs popcorn*" stupidity. PLD fans it all and tries to act like "tee hee I'm so nice and I love to joke uwu" after pretty much being a giant tool for no reason.

PLD also then proceeds to Provoke war with the GNB for the next two bosses, and half the time wouldn't even bother standing up front with them, so the bosses were spinning around between them. Which, y'know, considering we had a lot of RPRs and DRGs, I'm sure they super appreciated their lives being made harder all for the sake of a PLD's fragile ego.

My stance was still off this whole time, btw (barring the add phase on chariot dude). PLD had the gall to give me a sarcastic /pet while I was just waiting by the exit for loot to distribute.

Imagine being that much of a stooge.

[Cincierta]

That moment when you accidentally hit Shift+(num) instead of Ctrl+(num) while as a healer and suddenly realize your buttons are gone, in a panic end up smashing your Windows key and use up all of your alt ogcds to sustain a tank but the tank dies anyway at the end of a pull in Stigmascape.

To that pld tank I had earlier today, I am so sorry. I would've accepted a votekick out of embarrassment.

[Aglaica]

Well, this might not be all that entertaining but when I was doing smileton, i got put in a group with others from faerie, and afterwards the tank gave me 2 pieces of classical gear which was great as i had just hit 90 and only had a few pieces. I am very grateful to him

[SweetPopoto]

Back when I started my journey in 2.2, I had no idea duty finder was even a thing. So what did my genius sprout self do for the first dungeon? Sat at the entrance for several hours waiting for other players to show up. I was lucky enough to recruit a tank, but we had no healer. I was a thaumaturge back then and learned a healing spell from arcanist, so I had the bright idea of being the group's healer. We wiped at the orobon.

[Merrigan]

I am aware of the difference my point still applies.
If you're in the lvl 89 dungeon and you run around with lvl 80 gear then there is something wrong and you're entering the territory of just wasting peoples time and being a burden.
Imo it's essentially the same thing regardless if Savage is more difficult or not.

Examples and comparisons don't have to be identical to still apply.
And I still think it's fair to have some expectations even in the casual content, it doesn't rly matter if it's just a dungeon to me a BLM who's just spamming Blizzard I think is just being disrespectful to everyone else in the group and I think you'd be in the right for either kicking them or leaving ( granted that you try and help them first ).

The problem with this kind of discussion is that people tend to caricature everything that is said.

No one said that the lack of artifact equipment was normal. I totally agree with you on this one: healers that don't dps; players who don't visit the merchant; and in general runs that take me a very long time when they should be done in about 15 minutes piss me off.

But there is a step between making a comment and leaving. I had the case last time: a tank who reproached (rightly) the lack of dps of the healer. WHM level 90, not a single miracle. They discuss, the WHM doesn't answer much and continues to heal from time to time without participating more than that.

The tank ended up leaving. Penalizing the healer, sure, but also and especially two dps who did their job and had a much longer queue time. Who is the most selfish here, if we reason only in time that we make lose to others?

[Teno]

I am aware of the difference my point still applies.
If you're in the lvl 89 dungeon and you run around with lvl 80 gear then there is something wrong and you're entering the territory of just wasting peoples time and being a burden.
Imo it's essentially the same thing regardless if Savage is more difficult or not.

Examples and comparisons don't have to be identical to still apply.
And I still think it's fair to have some expectations even in the casual content, it doesn't rly matter if it's just a dungeon to me a BLM who's just spamming Blizzard I think is just being disrespectful to everyone else in the group and I think you'd be in the right for either kicking them or leaving ( granted that you try and help them first ).

Nah, why should I clutter my armoury space with single job gear that'll be thrown away after literally 2 easy dungeons runs ? For essentially 100 dps ? When people are not even good to begin with and you out dps them in 80 gear ? And in fact it doesn't even matter because it's faceroll as it is ?

It's absolutely not the same as savage, where 100 dps for everyone might mean beating enrage, and 1k hp more might mean survival.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Nah, why should I clutter my armoury space with single job gear that'll be thrown away after literally 2 easy dungeons runs ? For essentially 100 dps ? When people are not even good to begin with and you out dps them in 80 gear ? And in fact it doesn't even matter because it's faceroll as it is ?

It's absolutely not the same as savage, where 100 dps for everyone might mean beating enrage, and 1k hp more might mean survival.

"Why should I do my part and not be bad when another strawman is also bad?"

[Rilifane]

Nah, why should I clutter my armoury space with single job gear that'll be thrown away after literally 2 easy dungeons runs ? For essentially 100 dps ? When people are not even good to begin with and you out dps them in 80 gear ? And in fact it doesn't even matter because it's faceroll as it is ?

It's absolutely not the same as savage, where 100 dps for everyone might mean beating enrage, and 1k hp more might mean survival.

It's free. It takes only a few seconds to buy and equip it. Everyone has access to it.
There is absolutely no excuse to not buy it.
It doesn't matter if you play like a 90yo grandma on her first hour in her first MMO ever or like a Triple Legend god. "It's easy content and I'm already better than most players" is a just a paraphrased "I couldn't be bothered, deal with my laziness".
You can play well on top of having free and easy to obtain up-to-date gear. Shocking, I know, but playing well and keeping gear up to date is not mutually exclusive. The better the player, the bigger the different that gear makes.
The time you spend on the "lol why I should I bother? content is easy lol" mental gymnastics is more than it takes to just buy the artifact gear.

[Teno]

"I couldn't be bothered, deal with my laziness, and I expect the same laziness from you no problem, 100 dps or 30s more really, really won't change anything, good player or not". More like that. No reason to get it aside from cosmetics, and I've run this dungeon a ton, with the gear on my first class, and then with 80 gear on subsequent classes. Doesn't change anything, there is 0 difficulty to begin with, literally 0 and that's the main reason it's not warranted and I don't care about it, plain simple.